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Bob, I tried red-pilling those Acid Horizon and Zero Books lame-o's on The Dark Enlightenment, but they're either hopelessly depressed, low IQ midwits, or MI6 controlled opposition mind capture for wandering Deleuzoids. Greg, I'll buy you a copy of CCRU Writings (Fisher's only goods works come from when he was doing Speed and listening to 90s D&B with Nick Land) and Fanged Noumena, we can cure you of your marxism! Also Bob, is Nick Land a Freemason or some kind of ex-OTO member or something? I'm completely obsessed with his mystical views on capitalism and the tech body plus I have the same anglophonic sensibilities as he does, but I don't have a map of the last 100+ years of cults to really figure out if he wants to sacrifice me to the demiurge or something (kinda doubt this).

Also.. side note. I wonder if what Zappa made the body feel (tactile) like Caroline is for the body and Bob for the mind then Finnegan’s Wake may be a tactile version of (not words) but an image.. so interesting. Good food for thought served up here guys 😊

Thanks for your interest and comments, Stephanie!

Bob, please spend a whole 12 hour session talking about Mark Stahlman and the entire history of Medieval timey Ramus form logic dialectic stuff, I want a complete teardown of that motherfucker before the Vatican psy-ops me into being a Catholic commie. And then do Nick Land, the Pentaverate/Secret Council of Ten/The Architectonic Order of the Eschaton is something you both talk about, plus the Tech Body and Deleuze and Hyperstition. You should get some duct tape for that Greg fellow.

Hello Michael: Thank you for listening to yesterday's show. Firstly, let me be clear about what I have stated on the show about the topic of bitcoin when Chad made a major dissertation about it over a week ago.

1) I never stated that bitcoin "had no value". I challenged the idea that it was a "store of value". My view is that bitcoin has gone through a stage of being a speculative asset in recent times. Bitcoin, in its current phase, is more related to tech stocks than the traditional "stores of value" that gold, silver and even fiat currencies currently offer. For instance, if you physically held gold, silver or fiat currencies they would be tangible and available for use. If the computer networks go down (iON often talks of massive disruptons to the electrical grids) bitcoin would be inaccessible. You cannot hold bitcoin without it being on the network, as I understand it.

2) You made many claims in the chat function last week (including the stories about your relatives profiting from bitcoin). One was that I was angry with myself I hadn't "invested" in bitcoin. I would reply that it would be an unusual person that would not regret buying an item at $10, let's say, and learn of it going to $69,000.00. But it would also be an unusual person that would have purchased an item at $10.00 and not sold it when it had reached $100.00, especially in such a short time. In fact every other asset that has existed in the world cannot hold a candle to the gains of bitcoin in the last few years. But that is predicated by having bought in at the correct time. Your relatives did do that, and had the smarts to get out and profit from it. Congratulations to them. Many bitcoin investors are underwater financially as I write this. So, just for the record, I did not nor am I now arguing that bitcoin did not go up in value compared to fiat currencies or practically every other asset.

3) What I stated in yesterday's program, after I had a week to reflect upon your statements directed at me in chat from a week ago Wednesday, was that I found it curious that you had such a difference of opinion from that of iON when it comes particularly to bitcoin. The reason I say this is because it is my experience in listening to the shows over the years that you never disagree with iON on any topic. About bitcoin, according to Bob, iON says that bitcoin is "going to 0". Now, I never said that, not that I'm going to go out of my way to challenge iON on that assertion because "it" may well be correct. The thing I find odd is that you would be so vociferous in challenging ME on my statements about bitcoin (which I think you are misunderstanding or misquoting) but not to argue with iON about the topic, which you have the occasion to do on numerous occasions.

4) I was not performing "an attempt to attack iON". Surely Bob could be seen as attacking iON by repeating iON's claim that bitcoin is "going to 0". What I was doing was forging a contrast between what iON purportedly has stated and what I have come to learn is your position. This is not to say that you are not allowed to have a disagreement with iON but, once more, my point is that I have never known you to EVER differ or quibble, let alone wholeheartedly disagree, with anything iON says. I think what you're contending is that I am trying to create conflict between you and iON. Well, maybe you're right, but I don't see what the harm is in that, but perhaps you do.

I hope my statements help to clear the waters.

Best regards,

Greg

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