Transcribed by Nan
Bob 0:01
Okay, this is a session with iON and Bob, maybe Carolyn a little later, being recorded on December 6th, Copyright 2016, All Rights Reserved for Dobbstown.com. Greetings — oh, and we’re starting at 12:09pm, Hawaii time. Greetings, iON.
iON 0:25
Hello, hello, hello. It’s Bob’s town.
Bob 0:28
Yes. Okay, so first question, is Phil, our buddy in England, iONaught in England, about a year or so ago, you may recall some nowhere team in rugby, soccer, whatever it is over there, suddenly started winning, and it went from the basement all the way to the top and won the trophy. And Phil started watching this, and he decided that iON was behind this upstart team suddenly beating all the better teams, supposedly better. And so the big humiliation in British sports, this nowhere team winning. So, it occurred to me, if iON was behind that, could that have been a rehearsal for bringing Trump into power?
iON 1:18
It’s an example of it.
Bob 1:21
Yeah, like, what iON can do?
iON 1:24
No, no, no, not what we do. What is, what is being done.
Bob 1:28
By iON?
iON 1:31
By your world. Yeah.
Bob 1:33
Right. So, and this is part of the creativity of iON working with cultural institutions like sports.
iON 1:40
The only reason we’re havin’ to do it is you all won’t. That’s the only reason. It’s kind of a kick in the head. You’re the marvelous creators, and you won’t even get off your damn ass long enough to create what it is you actually damn want. The most ridiculous thing you ever seen. We give you the whole wide world, the sun, moon and the livin’ fuckin’ stars, and you won’t even roll out of bed long enough to enjoy it or even open the door long enough to receive it. So, that’s all right, we got a little some’um for you. Don’t worry about it.
Bob 2:03
My sentiments exactly. I agree with you. Nobody’s following my orders. [chuckles]
iON 2:07
Well, you ain’t see nothin’ yet. Dun-dun. Ba-ba-baby, you…
Bob 2:11
You’re following my orders, but…
iON 2:14
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Bum-bum.
Bob 2:17
I ain’t heard nothin’ yet. I ain’t heard nothin’ yet. [chuckles]
iON 2:21
Oh, ho, okay. Well, you wanna take that.
Bob 2:26
Tape what, that song?
iON 2:28
No, you wanna take that slow ’cause it’s developing. ‘Cause I don’t want ’em… see, we could get so hard we start slashing a lot of folks, and that would be too much.
Bob 2:36
Yeah, yeah.
iON 2:36
See, too much. You gotta be soft with it. You gotta try. Otherwise, you’re answering questions, the wrong question.
Bob 2:42
Right. Last week — I have my notes here. There was a lot of burning going on, maybe in one of the cities in Israel. I don’t know how widespread it was. Was that a terrorist attack, the fire?
iON 2:45
No, no.
Bob 2:48
What was it?
iON 2:50
Just a fire.
Bob 3:00
All right, no big deal, no disaster.
iON 3:04
Well, that’s a huge deal, Bob. Israel is hard to burn, but it is. It did.
Bob 3:09
Okay. Now, it’s not symbolic of burning in the belly or something that I created. It’s not something I created, right?
iON 3:18
No, you didn’t. No, you’re safe on that, Bob. There’s gonna be a lot more of that. Well, like we didn’t tell you all about them Rocky, Smoky Mountains. Well, we talked about the mountains burning, the middle mountains burning. We told you about that, but we didn’t say anything about Gatlinburg burning down, for God’s sake, and Dollywood, and all that kind of stuff. That’s pretty crazy. But you know, what you gonna do? You know.
Bob 3:40
Yeah.
iON 3:40
Barbara Boxer didn’t mean anything by it.
Bob 3:44
Okay. The next thing is, Roxy noticed that the Protestant leader, Martin Luther, he was knocking the mystics and the alchemists and the guys that took the long trek to Spain, back there in Martin Luther’s time. Any significance about what Martin Luther was doing? Why he was angry at the quote, alchemists or mystics?
iON 4:10
No, they weren’t mystic, they were just tryin’ to call it, and they were out of bounds. So he was just checking them on it. No difference than if you come on and says, well, I know so and so and so and so, and we would say, oh, really? That would be a challenge also.
Bob 4:23
Right. So, you support his checking them.
iON 4:24
We don’t care.
Bob 4:25
You support Martin.
iON 4:28
We don’t care. It happened. It was gonna happen that way regardless. If he hadn’t had said some’um, some’um else would have.
Bob 4:36
Right. Now, I think Voltaire, the French guy, he didn’t like the mystic either.
iON 4:43
Well, they were over — the only reason he didn’t like them is ’cause they were fightin’ on him.
Bob 4:49
You mean they were arguing with him, did you say?
iON 4:51
No, no. They were taking, stealing his thunder. See, he had to call them in check to be able to say that he was superior. Otherwise, they were superior than he.
Bob 5:03
And were they as political as he was?
iON 5:06
More so.
Bob 5:08
All right. More on the the correct way to create a hierarchy, rather than populist revolution, which I would align with Voltaire; they were the elitistss.
iON 5:18
Basically. Those lines now, see, be careful with these lines you’re drawing, because they’re not based on anything. They don’t even have a meme to overcome, so you don’t even have anything to obsolesce in this conversation. But that’s all right, all you’re tryin’ is to soften it a little bit so you can see that the gray — the line and spaces are blurred. And if you can go with it that way, then you go, oh yeah. This is that time when it started oozing out of this and into this. It’s where everything became in question, kinda like now.
Bob 5:45
Very good. And, yeah, that would be due to the newspaper, and the printing — more abundant, produced production of the printing press known as the newspaper. So that’s the, the error of the newspaper stirring things up.
iON 5:59
And it’s, it’s “The Gutenberg Galaxy.”
Bob 6:02
Very good. Okay. So then, in the 14 rings on the Angel Diagram, does each ring loop through chromosome 14, which is at the center of the diagram?
iON 6:16
We would say, we would say, the only reason that works is that it’s okay. Just to say okay. Just to say okay, but it’s not like that, because any answer we give is gonna be too clever by half, and wrong and inappropriate. So we got to go slow and easy about it.
Bob 6:32
Right. So, so don’t emphasize that image of each ring looping through chromosome 14.
iON 6:37
Well, you can say that, but don’t make it a point, because it’s gonna make it — you know, the wrong way.
Bob 6:43
Right, ’cause I was listening to our talk about the Diagram and the Mobius strip, or the looping happened on every level, you said. But you didn’t mean every ring, just in every level.
iON 6:44
Right. See? Very good. Excellent, excellent, excellent. Good.
Bob 7:01
Okay, so…
iON 7:02
Good, good, good, you got that. Good for you.
Bob 7:05
All right, we know that 14 loops through chromosome 14 at the center. Any other rings? Number seven, does that loop through the Escher ring? Does that loop through the central chromosome 14?
iON 7:17
Yes.
Bob 7:19
Any other rings looping to chromosome 14?
iON 7:25
Two.
Bob 7:25
Two.
iON 7:26
You gotta get the winds. You gotta get the winds.
Bob 7:28
Right. Two, seven, and 14. Okay. JW was telling me that right today, the eurozone is falling apart. I heard about the Italian guy.
iON 7:43
We already told you. We already told you that. We already told you that.
Bob 7:47
Well, you talked about the euro being defunct two or three years ago.
iON 7:51
Well, it is, but the European Union has to fall first. Remember when we did all the triangulation and Nelson almost figured it out?
Bob 7:57
Yeah, yeah.
iON 7:58
That’s when it actually happened was right then.
Bob 7:59
Yeah, that’s 2011. So then we’re gonna — so you see, JW was just all worked up saying, “Man, this is… what’s going on? They’re destroying everything.” So, there’s big problems for Merkel and all the prime ministers and presidents in Europe right now? Any comments you want to make about it?
iON 8:20
It’s too early.
Bob 8:26
Too early. So, but you’re saying the euro collapses after the political structures collapse.
iON 8:32
Well, yeah, the European Union has to fall; that’s what started the euro.
Bob 8:37
Yeah. Okay. Now, what else is going on. There was another story. Well, so you’re saying it’s too early. Does that mean it’s too hot right now for you to comment on it?
iON 8:49
Yes.
Bob 8:51
Because you want to let the humans make their decisions.
iON 8:53
Well, they have to do a little bit, Bob.
Bob 8:56
Yes.
iON 8:56
Otherwise, they’d lose the flavor in it.
Bob 8:59
Right. Okay, so those are the questions I have typed up now, the euro. Is Trump getting another success in something? I see it, I don’t know who, if the fake news or what, but they’re saying Trump did this, Trump did that, and he solved that problem. What’s going on with Taiwan, say? Is he purposely trying to aggravate the government of China?
iON 9:25
Yep. Yep. He’s not purposely, he is. China’s numbers up. You chink-lovin’ motherfuckers runnin’ around here think you gonna run somethin’ and run any deal you want to and charge any tariff you can on everything comin’ from the United States. We, sirs, are the track. You fixin’ to feel the fire of the dragon’s breath. That’s what you need to know. This is talking to the country of China, not to the Mountain and not to Uncle.
Bob 9:51
Right. And Mountain and Uncle support the United States people, so to speak.
iON 9:56
Indirectly.
Bob 9:59
They support, they support the nation. Do they support Trump?
iON 10:05
They don’t have a choice.
Bob 10:07
Okay. [Bob comments on recording:]Okay, now I’ll move it forward.
iON 10:12
[recording continues] It’s not lying. It’s not lying. They’re sincere, and everything’s a lie. Even the news is fake, Bob. Everything is fake. Everything’s a lie, and everything is fake. So now you’re just tryin’ to say, what the God says. What does God say? When God says, then that’s what is. Everything else is null and void. It stopped the Android Meme. The Android Meme can’t function outside of a precipice that embraces it. The medium is the message. Well, if there’s no medium, there’s no message.
Bob 10:38
But what is the God that you say does counter it? You’re saying God counters the Android Meme?
iON 10:44
Yep. Now what God says goes.
Bob 10:47
Yeah. But Is God what we’re saying? What — one system itself, or do you mean religious institutions like the Pope?
iON 10:55
No, no, no. Piss on the Pope. That little motherfucker scheduled himself for an abortion. So don’t worry, he’s changed everything. They throwed — they lettin’, lettin’, they let colored people in there, Bob. Can you believe it? They’re lettin’, they’re lettin’ people that have abortions in there. They’re lettin’ sinners in the damn church. They are lettin’ sinners in the church. The highest place of ever, ever, ever, lettin’ sinners in. Known sinners in the church. It’s ridiculous.
Bob 11:21
I got you. What is the god you’re referring to that counters the Android Meme? The true God?
iON 11:26
The God. You God. It’s you as God.
Bob 11:29
Yeah, the power of my words.
iON 11:30
Kinda like Gozer.
Bob 11:33
So, is there any guru out there, like you got Gary Null, Deepak Chopra, Andrew Weil, you got all these people — Mercola, they all have audiences, and people read their websites and information. And of course, Carolyn will say, well, you’re ignoring our stuff. Is there any of these public gurus or authorities in alternative evolution, spiritual development, who will –luckily for them, I would say — drop their gig and adapt to iON or to our products? Is any of these famous people ever going to, you know, get their comeuppance and realize, oh, this is better. iONdom is better. You see any, any of them doing that?
iON 12:15
Well, it’s not just yet. We’ve just barely got their attention, Bob. You’ll see.
Bob 12:21
Right. But once we get…
iON 12:22
We don’t want to spoil, we don’t want to spoil the soup.
Bob 12:24
Right. And once we get big attention, then they’ll be forced to look at…
iON 12:27
You haven’t even, you haven’t even got through the vile judgments yet. You remember those?
Bob 12:33
I’m not sure what you say they are. [iON laughs] I mean, they’re not… [Bob comments on the recording:] So then there’s a whole digression into what vile judgments are. That’d be for another time. So, the gurus won’t come around until the vile judgments happen and everybody is sick and fucked up and nothin’ works. Then they might give Bob a call. Okay, so I think that’s the point there. Okay, so we move it forward to 24:02. Okay. [recording continues]
iON 13:13
Do you understand now they’re running around making false news, false news. They’re gonna have the F-N-N, the False News Network. [Bob chuckles] It will be great, Bob.
Bob 13:21
Why are they making false news?
iON 13:22
No, that’s what happens. It’s all gone.
Bob 13:24
No, let’s deal with that.
iON 13:27
Because it’s gone.
Bob 13:28
Why are they making false news?
iON 13:28
Because it’s gone. Because it’s gone. Death to media ecology.
Bob 13:29
They’re trying to get attention.
iON 13:31
Your Tiny Notes said it. The thing you said that was gonna fall into the pit has fallen into the pit. And now the sitting president of the United States are gonna be able to tell and undo everything with his damn tweeter. He’s gonna be able to tell you messages subliminally in your head of what he’s doin’ and not doin’, and what he likes or don’t like, what he’s gonna get and not get, and what we’re gonna do.
Bob 13:54
Okay, that brings up the point — yeah, listen to this.
iON 13:56
It’s, Bob, Babylon has fallen. Babylon has fallen.
Bob 14:00
Right. And you said the other day, “Bob, is Trump in your Chart?” And I said no. Now I realize Trump is in my chart, it’s Trumpelstiltskin. He’s Trumpelstiltskin.
iON 14:09
That’s correct. That’s correct.
Bob 14:12
You knew that. You waited for me to discover it.
iON 14:15
We did. But we didn’t wanna, we didn’t wanna hurt your feelings too, Bob. [iON and Bob laugh] You know how sensitive you are. We wanted to be real slow. If you didn’t ask… so, we had to go easy.
Bob 14:28
You didn’t want to get Carolyn mad. You’re afraid of Carolyn.
iON 14:29
It’s gonna be soft. It’s gonna be soft — not so much. It’s good because it comes a way…
Bob 14:38
Not so much? You’re not afraid of Carolyn? What the fuck. You watch out, buddy.
iON 14:38
It becomes soft, meaning, the position becomes it doesn’t change anything.
