Transcribed by Nan
Bob 0:02
We know Atlantis hasn’t happened yet, so to speak. I mean, it is, but in our experience of it, it hasn’t happened yet. Is Lemuria similar to Atlantis? It hasn’t happened yet?
iON 0:13
Oh no, it has.
Bob 0:15
It did happen. What was the lifestyle of the Lemurians?
iON 0:22
Lizard like.
Bob 0:23
And where did they live?
iON 0:25
In Easter Island.
Bob 0:27
So they were lizard like?
iON 0:29
They are still lizard like. They’re not gone.
Bob 0:32
Are they human beings?
iON 0:33
No, they’re lizards, Bob.
Bob 0:35
And how do they get like that?
iON 0:38
That’s how they came, Bob.
Bob 0:39
They’re from another society, another planet?
iON 0:43
Yes, Lemuria.
Bob 0:46
Lemurians are the first alien bodies to come here?
iON 0:50
No. Rhyee says it’s them damn Bootians, but that’s another tale of woe.
Bob 0:55
Not Rhyee, the Evergreens say that.
iON 0:58
The reference of Rhyee, that’s what they’ve become.
Bob 1:01
Don’t bring that in. The point is the Bootians came and got us, got us started here.
iON 1:06
Sorry. We’ll behave.
Bob 1:07
Yeah. No, no, the Bootians, as the Evergreens spell out, came here and genetically altered us and helped us become human; we were apes. Did the Lemurians do something like that to us?
iON 1:18
No.
Bob 1:18
Did the Lemurians come here before there were humans here?
iON 1:21
No, there’s always been humans.
Bob 1:24
Right. So, humans interacted with the Lemurians.
iON 1:27
Certainly. Still are.
Bob 1:29
So, there are Lemurians available for us to interact with?
iON 1:33
Certainly.
Bob 1:34
Any of them been a President of the United States?
iON 1:37
Not yet.
Bob 1:38
Any of them been public figures, sports figures, entertainment figures, or politicians?
iON 1:43
Yes, yes, yes.
Bob 1:45
Can you name those sports figure?
iON 1:47
No, no, no. It’s not our job.
Bob 1:49
Do they look like lizards, or they look like in “V”?
iON 1:53
They look like “V,” Vians.
Bob 1:56
So then “V” is a literally accurate story. They were literally accurate. The presentation of humans looking like humans, but actually being lizards inside is true.
iON 2:06
Sure, based on what true is, but yeah.
Bob 2:09
Where did they come from, the Lemurians? What planet?
iON 2:12
Lemuria. Lemuria.
Bob 2:14
And where is that positioned?
iON 2:16
It is two galaxies from the Andromeda Galaxy.
Bob 2:21
And the Andromeda Galaxy is our Milky Way, or a separate galaxy?
iON 2:27
It’s a separate galaxy, Bob. It’s the closest one to the Milky Way that you can see with your lying eyes.
Bob 2:33
Now, why do the Lemurians interact with us here?
iON 2:37
Just soon to as not.
Bob 2:38
Are there humans who’ve seen — a human being and found out that they had lizard skin or lizard life underneath the skin, the human skin?
iON 2:47
Yes. Yes.
Bob 2:49
Did those Lemurians have certain powers that would impress human beings?
iON 2:53
We’d have to say no. But now, if you just said the question the way you meant to say it, you’d have said, is there anything that the Lemurians have that we also have that we won’t accept and use?
Bob 3:06
Do they?
iON 3:07
Then we would say, absolutely.
Bob 3:09
Can you say what they have that we don’t use?
iON 3:13
No trepidation regarding creation. They understand what a powerful creator you are, more than you do.
Bob 3:22
And they’re powerful creators.
iON 3:23
Yes, but no, they know you’re more powerful, but because you don’t know it, they actually can supersede or affect this whole process, because you don’t know what it is that you’ve got, as far as power is. They got the upper hand on you because they know how powerful you are, and you don’t.
Bob 3:48
Just knowing that means that they can use us?
iON 3:50
They do ’cause you don’t know no better.
Bob 3:52
Are any of them in the royal family of Britain?
iON 3:54
Well, the royal family is bigger than Britain, Bob. The line of the monarchy, that only comes from monarchy. HRH status, you’d have to include the Germans,[inaudible], the Russians.
Bob 4:05
Right. Of all those people, of all those oligarchies, or monarchs, are any of them lizard Lemurians?
iON 4:13
Nn-nn. [no]
Bob 4:13
So that David Icke, the writer, was close, but he named the wrong — he says the Queen is a reptilian.
iON 4:15
But the Queen’s not a reptilian. But now that doesn’t mean that there aren’t people that would be in close contact with the family who would be.
Carolyn 4:33
So, does that mean that Icke is right?
Bob 4:36
He’s right that there are lizards, people who are lizards underneath. He’s right about that, but he’s not right about their political power or about the way they are. He puts too much strength into them. They’re cagey. They know how to get around us.
Carolyn 4:56
Right.
Bob 4:56
But they’re not out to do us in. Okay, thank you for the interlude.
Carolyn 4:56
Heh, heh.
Bob 4:56
[tape resumes] She’s a vampire. Is there something similar between vampires and Lemurians?
iON 5:06
Yep.
Bob 5:07
So, Lemurians cut themselves off from NonPhysical like vampires?
iON 5:13
They never were.
Bob 5:15
Never were?
iON 5:17
Connected to physical.
Bob 5:19
Are Lemurians vampires from other worlds, other galaxies?
iON 5:24
No, they’re just different. They’re not vampires from other worlds.
Bob 5:28
So, they never were NonPhysical. So that means they weren’t…
iON 5:32
Let’s just say it like this. When Lemurians croak, they don’t go to the Guf. Now, that fix it for you?
Bob 5:39
Where do they go?
iON 5:40
Home.
Bob 5:41
To a parallel world?
Carolyn 5:43
Back to their home.
iON 5:44
Back to Lemuria, Bob.
Bob 5:47
Why don’t they have NonPhysical?
iON 5:50
‘Cause they’re not human. It’s a human creator thing, Bob.
Bob 5:54
Are humans special for having NonPhysical?
iON 5:59
Well, yes, that and beasts.
Bob 6:01
Well, the beasts are NonPhysical, but that’s where the Lemurians are not as total as we are. They don’t have NonPhysical.
iON 6:09
Well, some would say they’re more total than you are ’cause they know how powerful you are. They let that… this question while you’re on this point. We understand, well, you don’t, but you swallowed what we said all that was. So then, what would be the genome, species or type of an angel? What would an angel be? Are they aliens? Are they from another world? Are they from another galaxy?
Bob 6:35
No, they live in NonPhysical.
iON 6:38
What’s the zip code of NonPhysical?
Bob 6:40
I don’t know, but they live in the limbo, and they help people go to the Guf; wherever that subway is, that’s where they are.
iON 6:50
Okay. You can accept that, but then the Lemurians, you need to know exactly which star galaxy they arrived from in order to get it.
Bob 6:58
Well, Lemurians are not angels.
iON 7:00
We understand that, Bob, but we were trying to draw the parallel so you could understand, overlay, get the variations of lots of types of species that can easily interact within and without of your deity power. See, we got to make this inclusive and work every single time without fail or exception. But we also have to provide the anomalies, because there are some anomalies. Remember, you’re a human creator, you can, be, do or have anything you want to be, do, or have. So, if you want to have a pet Lemurian, then that’s got to be within your realm of possibility. And if we sit here and say, no, no, no, no, no, then you’ll say, “We’re the God blessed. You’re the God damned, and we’ll tell you how it’s gonna go,” and then that’s how it’s got to go. So, we can’t eliminate any of those dynamics because it’s up to you. You say, “Okay, all right, NonPhysical, I wanna sleep with a lizard person so I can say I have,” and we have no choice but to say your wish is our command.
Bob 8:10
So, David Icke, he says, you know, there’s reptiles in the oligarchy. They are not oligarchy, the Queen, but there are reptilians around them.
iON 8:19
Yes.
Bob 8:20
Are Lemurians involved with the 121 Depot Street?
iON 8:24
No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Bob 8:27
They’re just mingling. And they do all kinds of things. Some of them go to the cat house a lot.
iON 8:34
Mm-hm.
Bob 8:35
If one had sex with a Lemurian, you wouldn’t know it, because it just had human skin, right? Is there a way you could find out something about them?
iON 8:42
They do have human skin, but you would be able to necessarily tell the difference.
Bob 8:48
Because the way the skin felt?
iON 8:50
No, but the way that they are emotionless in the action of if you talk about gettin’ busy with the Lemurians.
Bob 8:59
They wouldn’t give off enough loving energy in the sex act that you’d think that they’re emotionally involved.
iON 9:04
That’s exactly correct. And they can’t.
Bob 9:08
As they’re portrayed in “V,” you know, they don’t have human emotion.
iON 9:12
Right. Same way.
Bob 9:14
Which is not a bad thing, they just are a species with a different calibration of things.
iON 9:20
So are Watchers.
Bob 9:22
Are Watchers different species?
iON 9:24
Yes, but Watchers are good.
Bob 9:28
Lemurians are not good?
iON 9:30
Lemurians aren’t good or bad, but Watchers are, in effect, guardians of good. Nothing gets awry. A Watcher can’t affect anything, but yet they do, because they decide that something is an important aspect or effect where if you get crossways of yourself, it sort of holds you if you slip off the cliff. A Lemurian wouldn’t get involved at all. They didn’t stand there and watch you fall to see how big a splat you make.
Bob 10:06
And they would not do it from perverse emotion; they’d just be curious.
iON 10:09
They don’t care.
Bob 10:10
Do they care about how big a splat you make?
iON 10:12
They would. That would be interesting.
Bob 10:14
Yeah, that’s the physics of it.
iON 10:16
Where a Watcher, if you falling off the cliff would affect something that would be important, they would from the goodness of your own heart, would engage and change your reality; a Lemurian would not.
Bob 10:34
Like in “Fringe,” the Watcher did that with Walter and his son.
iON 10:37
Which is against the rules, but they just threw caution to the wind when they realized the larger dynamic. Lemurians don’t have a job here, they just are. Watchers do.
Bob 10:49
And Watchers are not guardian angels, not angels.
iON 10:52
No. They are not angels. That is correct.
Bob 10:55
Are they another species, or just humans from another world?
iON 10:59
Okay, we like that. We like that ’cause if I’m not careful, I’m gonna twist you around the maypole of the time reveal. We’ll leave it there ’cause it’s good. You’ll fully pick that when you start meeting one. Well, you have several already, but when you start engaging one, that’ll become much easier.
Bob 11:17
How did I meet one? You mean, through our readings?
iON 11:20
New York City, Manhattan, at the conference just before trying to get together for Michael Blake Reed to come visit.
Bob 11:33
Well, I didn’t interact with anybody about that.
iON 11:36
It’s a little thing you did, and it was right before that.
Bob 11:40
That was the Alan Steinfeld’s New Age Church, where they presented the Japanese guy who does messages in the water book?
iON 11:49
Yes.
Bob 11:50
That conference. Was he the person who sat beside me?
iON 11:53
Over just a little bit. The one that was trying to engage you, but not.
Bob 12:03
Yeah.
iON 11:57
Interested in you, but not. They wanted to talk to you, but they really couldn’t, but boy, they were on you like stink on shit.
Bob 12:04
I remember that. I think Alan introduced me to this guy.
iON 12:06
Yep, absolutely. He was congenial, but distant.
Bob 12:10
Yeah. Yeah, he seemed like he would be interested in me, but then he didn’t, sort of. Yeah.
iON 12:11
Well, he was, but he couldn’t. That’s right.
Bob 12:18
So, I met — that’s the only Watcher I’ve met?
iON 12:21
No, when you were hitchhiking from Los Angeles, you had a couple of different parties that you were going through in the beginning of that journey.
Bob 12:32
Who picked me up and drove me.
iON 12:33
One of those was a Watcher, because otherwise, you wouldn’t have made it to the next connecting point. And you know that because the way they played the radio.
Bob 12:46
What I remember is my first drive was a gay guy who was trying to touch me. That went on for a couple 100 miles. The next thing is where a guy picked me up and he drove me, you know, 2000 miles. And he was starting a taco franchise.
iON 13:00
Taco.
Bob 13:00
And he gave me five bucks. Would that be the guy who spent — I had the long ride with?
iON 13:07
Yeah.
Bob 13:07
He was a nice guy.
iON 13:08
Did you send the five bucks back like you said?
Bob 13:11
Yep, I did do that.
iON 13:13
Where’d you send it to?
Bob 13:14
To whatever address he gave me. He gave me some address, and it’s all sort of, I remember making a point of paying him back. I made a point. I did. I did whatever I thought I could do or could do.
iON 13:28
Well, you did, and he appreciated it. It was no big deal ’cause he wasn’t expecting it. It was like, fine.
Bob 13:33
Well, he was, he was protecting me. You mean, I would have been killed on the road because it would have been a slower trip.
iON 13:39
Yeah, that desert’s a little bumpy, you know, when you’re sort of strolling along. You know?
Bob 13:43
I wouldn’t have got as many rides, or I would have got all these little, short, crummy rides, and they wouldn’t have led anywheres.
iON 13:53
Yeah, ’cause the guy that was trying to feel you up, if you said no, he could have thrown your ass out in Yuma, and there you’d been.
Bob 13:56
And I did say no and eventually let me out. That was nice. So, okay, I probably wouldn’t have made it.
iON 14:03
Right.
Bob 14:04
Why did I put myself in that kind of danger?
iON 14:08
The fun of it.
Bob 14:09
I had a sense that, well, a bit of powerfulness. I’m not gonna be affected, nothing’s gonna happen to me.
iON 14:14
And if it had of, you didn’t care. You’re just sort of goin’ along to see about how it was.
Bob 14:15
Has Carolyn met Watchers?
iON 14:21
Yes.
Bob 14:23
In what context for her?
iON 14:25
Many of her confabs and conferees that would be distant, but always there. Like they kept showing up. And if she looked back, — because they were used to pictures when they’d have these conferencing things — she can pick ’em out of her photos, or if she’d get some of them, we could point them out.
Bob 14:47
So, Watchers are not another species, they’re just people from another world. But they have a time aspect, like, they’re not subject to time.
iON 14:56
No. Well, neither are you.
Bob 14:58
You mentioned they were doing something with time. Didn’t want to go into it, but they’re pretty good at it.
iON 15:04
We’ll soften it here. They are of the human genome, but yet, through their process — and I don’t want to use the incorrect word, but there’s no other word you’re gonna understand — but let’s — what if it was like this. We didn’t say it’s this way, but I said, what if it was like this. They were human creators that has Ascended to the point that they could watch and have [inaudible].
Bob 15:31
They’re sort of immortal; they could come back here.
iON 15:34
Well, so are you. You see the distinction? They know they can, and you’re not sure yet. Good.
Bob 15:40
So, they’re Ascended people. Ascended humans.
iON 15:43
They most certainly are, but they still have the capacity to engage. Like sometimes through emotion, like the guy that picked you up that took you the long way around to get you home.
Bob 15:58
Yeah.
iON 15:59
All that business, which was very pleasant. It’s very odd to meet somebody driving 2000-plus miles to get you back home.
Bob 16:08
I figured, well, he just was living across the country, and he had to drive that whole thing. But…
iON 16:14
Well, not by way of Arkansas. I mean it could have been a straighter path.
Bob 16:18
So why did he go out of the way?
iON 16:20
To slow down the process to have that one little meeting which you didn’t mind hanging around if he was [inaudible] with the ride. That’s a connecting point so that it all synced up to get you back in time for what you had to do.
Bob 16:34
And he had to do that.
iON 16:35
He didn’t have to, but he happily did.
Bob 16:38
He had to make a connection, which affected my being, my reality.
iON 16:43
Ah-ha. And it did, no problem.
Bob 16:46
So, one of our clients was a Watcher. He was a Watcher, and he didn’t seem to know it.
iON 16:52
No, they know it. Watchers know it. They may convey to you they don’t know it.
Bob 16:59
And he was impressed that iON knew it.
iON 17:02
Mm-hm.
Bob 17:02
And he wanted to interact with iON.
iON 17:03
Of course, ’cause it’s the part of that same line as the hedge of protection. Do you remember when we talked about the hedge for you and Carolyn and JW? Well, that’s a great assurance of that same phatic involvement with what you know as Watchers, just allowing, enforcing, and allowing and creating the dynamic which you, the human creator, can seamlessly stroll through the whole process.
Bob 17:38
Connecting with that guy, that client the other week, was us connecting up with the Watchers for a hedge of protection.
iON 17:45
Mm-hm.
Bob 17:46
Just connecting with him was a good thing, useful thing? It was necessary for us to have the hedge of protection?
iON 17:52
Not required but certainly made it sweeter.
Bob 17:55
Because he was a Watcher, he had a hard time connecting with us.
iON 17:59
No, he didn’t have a hard time connecting with you, he had a hard time showing it so that you could connect with him.
Bob 18:07
He supposedly… the family couldn’t be around the house, and those kinds of issues.
iON 18:11
Right.
Bob 18:12
And that was him trying to connect because they — like the guy met in the meeting, he, they can’t connect with you. But if it’s gonna happen, it’s an anomaly, and they have to do a lot to get it to happen.
iON 18:24
Maybe.
Bob 18:24
It was a little more difficult for it to do than him just syncing up the time or something.
iON 18:29
Right. Of course.
Bob 18:30
There was a factor of anomalous situations. Like that guy at the conference, he couldn’t interact with me, even though he was interested. So, this guy, he wanted to interact with us, so it took a little extra work.
iON 18:44
Good.
Bob 18:44
More relaxing and allowing, you know, whatever.
iON 18:46
Good, either way.
Bob 18:48
We talked about Unidentified Flying Objects, ourselves from the future, but there were foreign world bodies when we laid out the post mystery landscape bodies. There was the foreign world bodies. That’s what Lemurians are –
iON 19:02
Yeah, that’s good.
Bob 19:03
- foreign world bodies. So, if I go back and listen to that little rant by you, why did the Queen Mother do this? Why did Walter Winchell do that? Did the Lemurians come to Easter Island? And all those things. It was all facts what was implied in those questions.
iON 19:19
Of course.
Bob 19:19
Okay, so have Carolyn and I met Lemurians?
iON 19:23
Yes.
Bob 19:23
And where did that happen?
iON 19:26
Before her New York lab in Canada.
Bob 19:30
In Toronto. Is it a patient?
iON 19:33
Nurse.
Bob 19:34
Her nurse?
iON 19:36
Yeah.
Bob 19:36
Judy?
iON 19:38
Yes.
Bob 19:39
Judy was a Lemurian.
iON 19:40
Well, Judy. Well, I don’t know what. There were several through that process. Some of them didn’t make it long, but…
Bob 19:47
It may not have been Judy.
iON 19:48
Mm-hm.
Bob 19:49
One of her nurses. Did she want to observe Carolyn?
iON 19:54
Yes.
Bob 19:56
And have, and want to do something else with her?
iON 19:59
Well, sure.
Bob 20:01
Did she want to have a relationship with Carolyn?
iON 20:03
Just the bigger dynamic that she was embracing and figuring out and calculating.
Bob 20:09
That Carolyn was. That Carolyn was trying to figure out.
iON 20:11
Yeah, but she’s always been on that leading edge.
Bob 20:13
So, the Lemurian was interested in observing that?
iON 20:16
Absolutely.
Bob 20:17
Did the Lemurian know what Carolyn would do now?
iON 20:19
Yes.
Bob 20:20
They can see those things. Did I meet a Lemurian?
iON 20:24
Yes.
Bob 20:26
Where was that?
iON 20:27
One lived with you on City Island.
Bob 20:31
In City Island. One somewheres else?
iON 20:33
Nova Scotia.
Bob 20:34
What did I do with that person?
iON 20:38
Kind of put off when they didn’t “get you,” and weren’t exactly interested in what you were interested in. So, it was too weak engaged, but a little like done.
Bob 20:49
They were put off from me?
iON 20:52
No, they just were cautious how they laid it out.
Bob 20:56
And was a male or female?
iON 20:59
Male.
Bob 21:00
So, it’s somebody I interacted with when I lived there.
iON 21:03
Certainly.
Bob 21:05
How many Lemurians are on the planet?
iON 21:06
Like a couple hundred thousand.
Bob 21:10
And then there are many, like, quarter of a million vampires in L.A., I think.
iON 21:15
Certainly.
Bob 21:16
So, that’s why a lot of our population of our world is — it’s foreign body people here, besides parallel worlders.
iON 21:24
Good.
Bob 21:25
Is there any Lemurians we’ve interacted with here on the island of Maui?
iON 21:28
You know the weird pool guy when you used to go to the pool?
Bob 21:32
I’m not sure, but everybody was strange in that pool. But anyways, one of them was that. Is he still here?
iON 21:40
Yes.
Bob 21:41
Do they marry other Lemurians?
iON 21:43
Yes.
Bob 21:45
So like in “V,” if some medical apparatus looked into their pregnant stomach, they’d see a lizard tail and things like that?
iON 21:54
Certainly.
Bob 21:55
What we imagine contact with UFOs would be we think it’s a beneficial thing; we’d have an interesting experience. It’s the positive part of the “V” movie. Okay, they’re bringing us new technologies. That scenario that’s associated with the UFO meme, I see you doing that, but you’re an IFO. You’re an Identified Flying Object.
iON 22:15
Right.
Bob 22:16
And so we have an IFO, and helping Carolyn bring forth this and that. That’s what pop culture sentimentalizes aliens would do. So, you’re in effect, an archetypal contact, like we call UFO contact, plus other things. You’re included in that.
iON 22:34
Mm-hm.
Bob 22:35
And you also have the archetype of the coming of the Mayan god Quetzalcoatl, or whatever it was, in the first session on the radio, May 1, 2009 with Raylan. Remember, someone called up said, are you the prophecy thing? And you said, yes. So, you’re those things, you’re the Second Coming. Jesus said you’re even better than the Second Coming. All these things are happening, and it’s appropriate, very appropriate.
iON 22:57
Good. Good, good, good.