Transcribed by Nan
Bob 0:01
Okay, so this is from December 26, 2016.
Carolyn 0:06
Yeah, we’re looking at questions that we gathered on the ReWrites. And back in ReWrite number five, we had some questions.
Bob 0:15
This is a good one.
Carolyn 0:16
Yeah.
Bob 0:16
Okay. So, Revelation, 14, verses, 14:16, it says, “And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.” The question is, is the cloud, chapter 14, Revelation, is it referring to the iON cloud, which is different from the…
iON 0:36
Yes, it is. Yes, it is.
Bob 0:38
Right. Now, I think you said that…
iON 0:40
It’s where the lamb stood on Mount Zion.
Bob 0:44
And the lamb would refer to?
iON 0:49
The perfect lamb. You know.
Bob 0:52
Like the one that would be — you used as a sample of perfect blood. It’s not a symbol of…
iON 0:57
That is the symbol. That’s a smear. That’s a smear. It’s like a jelly kiwano[?] on a bagel; on an “everything bagel.” It’s like a jelly smear. The blood smear. You gotta have the smear. Well, you gotta have, you gotta have the smear; otherwise, you wouldn’t know. Now, Mount Zion, it’s pretty incredible because this brings up the level of the 144,000 —
Bob 1:20
Double helix strands?
iON 1:21
—having the Father’s name. Yes, it’s in their foreheads.
Bob 1:25
Okay.
Carolyn 1:24
In the forehead?
iON 1:24
Yeah, in their foreheads.
Bob 1:25
What is? Blood?
iON 1:25
No, the 144,000. The Father’s name; the chosen one, written.
Bob 1:30
Yeah, but the 144,000, the double helix strands…
iON 1:42
They are. So is the lamb blood. The lamb’s blood is what proves that.
Bob 1:47
Do you put the lamb’s blood, rub it on your forehead? You say it’s in your forehead. So, we don’t know why you’re bringing it up.
iON 1:57
On the forehead.
Carolyn 1:58
Yeah.
iON 1:57
Well, we’re telling you. We’re telling you. We’re telling it. And you heard a voice from heaven. It’s a voice of many waters, and a great thunder, and a voice of the harpers singing with their harps. [Revelation 14:2] Pretty cool. This is that edging of coming in the place where…
Bob 1:58
See, you haven’t clarified…
Carolyn 2:07
Yeah, the forehead. What’s the symbol of the forehead in what we’re saying?
iON 2:18
The third eye chakra. The chakra. The third eye chakra.
Bob 2:20
That’s not a symbol, that’s what it is.
iON 2:21
Yes, it is. That’s what it is.
Bob 2:21
Yeah, it’s not a symbol.
iON 2:21
That’s what it is. That’s what it says in Revelation 14.
Carolyn 2:28
So, the 144,000 means that when we have 144,000 we will express our third eye chakra. Is that correct?
iON 2:40
That’s correct, if you have the smear to prove that you have the lamb’s blood, the one from Mount Zion. Now these words that — hold on, hold on, Bob, just a second. Carolyn, you may have to interpret this for Bob because this may be a little bit over the top, but maybe not. Maybe it’s simple. All those words that you’ve had to go through so far, Bob, gave you some construct to have a conversation where we’re saying little words right now, but you don’t get always, but you get some, but you’re thousands of light years better, faster, smarter, better now than you are or were when you started. See? To expand on a lampstand; you talk about the lamb’s blood; you talk about the altar; the Iron Throne; you talk about the cloud of glory, it’s moving; about the angels coming, moving in and out within the construct of this “all now,” the day before yesterday kind of business; and then when the smoke monster comes, we had to show you TV show after TV show so you can have a construct to say, “Oh, you mean like when bla. You mean, oh, you mean like when Fukushima blew. Oh, yeah, you mean like when we had to increase the radiation on the earth. Oh, you mean like when the caldera blows.” These concepts have been thoroughly developed. Now they’re starting to simply start to occur, which makes you, of course, way up the food chain, which we almost don’t want you so far up the food chain. That’s okay. You gotta buffer it back. You know, Carolyn says take the parts that will kill you and back it out just a little bit. Then we keep going from there.
Bob 4:12
Oh, going up the food chain could kill us. Could kill Bob.
iON 4:16
Well, no, we don’t want you too exposed. We don’t want you too smart, Bob. You’re great, smart enough, not too smart, ’cause too smart’s scary because too smart puts you exposed. You can’t be right too often. That’s why you don’t have hundreds of thousands, millions of people listening. You have a lot of people listening, but there’s not so many that you can’t function, you see.
Bob 4:36
And that includes Carolyn when you say we shouldn’t appear too right; Bob and Carolyn should not. Or it’s just me?
iON 4:42
Well, it’s different levels. We were referring to you. We wanted Carolyn to help so it’d be part of a clicheable position to include her in the thing that she may or may not get to get to explain to you. So, it would be a little different level, we think. But once the third angel pours the vial on the rivers, the fountains of water when they become blood, everything will get real clear then, and the sorting will have taken place.
Carolyn 5:09
Is the rivers different from the sea of glass?
iON 5:12
Yes.
Carolyn 5:14
Okay.
iON 5:15
The rivers flow into the sea of glass.
Carolyn 5:18
Okay.
Bob 5:19
But they’re saying there will be trouble in the rivers.
iON 5:24
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Bum, bum. And then you “heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.”
Bob 5:37
Which Revelation is that?
Carolyn 5:39
- We’re still at 14?
iON 5:42
No, we slipped into 16 now. Time flies when you’re havin’ fun, Carolyn.
Carolyn 5:45
Of course you did.
iON 5:46
Of course we did. Of course we did. That would be, that would be, that would be 16:5, Bob.
Bob 5:59
This burning in the world, is this why we moved to Maui? To make it a little easier for our safety?
iON 6:07
Well, yeah, they can still get you, but they gotta — now they have to be committed to gettin’ you, so it’s a little bit better. Besides, the men, the men that “were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.” [Revelation 16:9] See, they didn’t bow down to Bob, so they have to burn.
Bob 6:27
What’s that have to do with us coming to Maui?
iON 6:31
They gnawed tongues. The Burning Man could fall on you and get you on fire. But now, to be honest or fair, now, if they’re on fire, they’re pretty clean, Bob. There’s not a lot of germs live in fire. So, if they really burned up good, they’re probably not germy. And typically, that’s your criterion for having engaged in these positions with them, is it not?
Bob 6:51
Right. Okay.
iON 6:53
So, good. That’s good to know.
Carolyn 6:55
Which quote, the iCloud?
Bob 6:59
Because we’re… this is all sidebar. This is not really exactly what the quote is.
iON 7:06
Oh, you don’t think that the sixth angel, you don’t think the sixth angel is gonna pour the vial on the great river Euphrates and the water was gonna dry up, and the way of the kings, the way of the kings of the east might be prepared if the world is gonna be without water? Okay. [Revelation 16:12]
Bob 7:23
Oh, I didn’t say that.
iON 7:23
We did. We did.
Bob 7:23
Here’s the question. “And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.” Is the cloud of Revelation referring to the iON cloud, which you said the other day is Bob’s cloud? Right?
iON 7:24
It is. It is. It is.
Bob 7:28
Is it different from Bill Gates’ cloud?
iON 7:33
Yes, Bill Gates doesn’t have a cloud. His is pornography version. His is just where it started, what people could get in. We had to introduce it to show them that this is the mystery landscape. They didn’t even know what it was. “What do you mean I’m sending my pictures to the cloud? I don’t even know what that is. I’m not gonna give ’em pictures of me and put it in the cloud. I’m not gonna do it. I’m not gonna do it.” But then, all of a sudden, they put them in, and they can get them anytime they want to. And they burned up their little machine; that the Android part was no good.
Bob 8:10
The Android part, typically, the company sells Android. You mean that?
iON 8:15
Well, no, the Android. No, we’re talkin’ about the Android part that is the android part, which is the physical mechanic, mechanical, mechanics part.
Bob 8:25
Okay. Can we go back to the quote, Carolyn?
iON 8:29
Yes, please. We like that.
Carolyn 8:31
Bob, I have to take notes. You’re jumping back here is the…
Bob 8:35
No, I’m now going to the interpretation that was there. So, you said, yes, referring to the Bob cloud. It’s where the lamb stood on Mount Zion. What is Mount Zion referring to the words?
iON 8:52
The special place.
Bob 8:53
Okay, you don’t know what to say about the — there’s no word on that. We don’t know what Mount Zion is.
iON 9:01
Well, we know, we ain’t tellin’ you just yet ’cause you’d go mess it up. So, we don’t want that exposed out there and get accidentally played, and the hackers gonna hack, and the fuckers gonna fuck, and we don’t want them in your business. So, that’s how that rolls. That’s how we roll, Bob.
Bob 9:16
Now, the lamb referred to national lamb’s blood.
iON 9:21
The perfect lamb that was slain that was, that was dedicated, that was donated, that’s where the blood was preserved, so that you can prove…
Bob 9:28
[inaudible]
iON 9:28
So, so, what is Hebrew culture? You don’t even know what that is.
Bob 9:39
Okay, you started to describe the lamb. Are you describing the iCell? The perfect blood?
iON 9:47
Basically.
Bob 9:51
Okay, so no one would know what that meant. No one’s ever made the iCell like we’re making it. Correct?
iON 10:00
That’s correct.
Bob 10:03
People have known there was perfect blood in the Ascended, and they knew the lamb’s blood was similar, but they didn’t know how to get to it, how to acquire it in past…
iON 10:14
Example after example, after example.
Bob 10:16
Oh, you’re contradicting what I’m saying. There were examples of perfect blood. People who had perfect blood. They knew what it was. They could see it.
Carolyn 10:28
No, we’re creating the new examples.
Bob 10:30
You go with what Carolyn said or with what I said, iON? Don’t fail us now, [Carolyn chuckles] we have some questions here.
iON 10:44
Now try it again.
Bob 10:47
This perfect blood, did the Hebrews know, did the Levites know the perfect blood? Had they, did they preserve samples of it from Ascended people?
iON 10:55
Ah, yes, they had the bones of Joseph in the ark when they left Egypt. They sure do. That’s why the bones are so important.
Bob 11:05
Do the bones look different than a Little Man’s?
iON 11:08
They didn’t know. No, they didn’t know that. They just knew what they had to do. They knew that that was the reference. That reference, everywhere the power was they separated themselves from, before they cut their throats, they made sure the house was really clean, so when they came to drag out the bodies, the house would be clean, Bob. They knew they were gonna separate from their power. See? This is why we said if we can show you a perfect one, you could make them all day long. It’s like a four-minute mile; nobody could do it till you did it, then everybody could do it. Same thing with Ascension; once they start this process, then everybody’s gonna shut up talkin’ about it and they’re gonna start doing it. A little less talk and a lot more action, and then all of a sudden, we’ll have a different conversation. And then, very quietly and easily, you’ll come to take over the world. But some would say you may already, already, already, already, already had, but now we’re negotiating. You’re talking about first fruits, Bob. First fruits under God unto the lamb. First fruits.
Bob 12:00
Okay, the shewbread that the Levites protected and kept from David, that had the iCell in it?
iON 12:07
Yes, it does.
Bob 12:08
Did the Jews know how to make that shewbread?
iON 12:13
They just did it, and it did. They just did it, and it did. The bread knew how to make itself. Just like — okay, let’s say it this way. When Moses erroneously smote the rock with his staff and made Living Water come out of it, he was impetuous and wrong for doing that, okay? But he did it anyway because of the situation. The situation [inaudible]. Okay, that also had the iCell in it too, but that was the whole point. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t move heaven and earth to separate yourself and put your God in the box, and then smote the box and the damn thing that makes your power be your power in the first place. See, ’cause when they sung the new song before the throne, before the four beasts and the elders, no man can learn that song but the 144,000 which would redeem, redeem — there’s your product name, Carolyn, ReDeemed [chuckles]. The redeemed ReDeemed from the earth.
Carolyn 13:17
No, ReDean. Re-D-e-a-n.
iON 13:11
No, you wouldn’t wanna [indistinct] you’d just deem. If you deemed it, now see, you could redeem Dean. There you go, it’s redeemable. But, ReDeemed, yeah, that would be good.
Carolyn 13:20
Right.
Bob 13:20
You mentioned in that 144,000, what were you referring to, the double helix strands or the 12 tribes?
iON 13:28
Yeah. They’re all the same representation. They’re all the same archetypes, Bob. And that represents the 12 divisions. The 12 divisions. And those 12 divisions are in 12,000 sets, and that’s how the arms and rings are sorted.
Bob 13:45
This is the first time in human culture, in the span of culture of little humans, where the iCell is made consciously; we know what we’re doing, and we’re learning…
iON 13:57
This way. Now, it’s been made before, but just by rote. Remember? King David was so high and mighty, or less than, he couldn’t even take the shewbread that was made for him. He couldn’t even take it. So, that was real shewbread, and real iCell, and real Ascending material, right there.
Bob 14:18
Did some of the priests take it and they Ascended?
iON 14:22
Nope, they did not. When King David wouldn’t take it, they thought, uh-oh, we better — get messed up ’cause he’d chop off their head.
Carolyn 14:21
Who took it?
iON 14:30
No one. They offered it to the gods, and there weren’t any gods. And apparently there weren’t any gods to engage it, so it withered.
Carolyn 14:38
Wow.
Bob 14:38
We thought they had a little bit or something. The Kohathanites, they didn’t take it.
Carolyn 14:45
But see, the women…
iON 14:46
Kohathanites had it. Kohathanites had it; they took it all the time.
Bob 14:49
That’s why they’re still alive. That’s why they’re still in the physical. Correct?
iON 14:57
That is correct.
Bob 15:00
What were you saying, Carolyn?
Carolyn 15:02
I wonder if the women who made it kind of inhaled it a bit, and that’s why women are so superior.
iON 15:07
Well, they are very superior, there’s no contest there. You’re absolutely — there’s no question. They are indeed exactly superior, but not necessarily ’cause of that. But they are superior for sure.
Bob 15:22
Okay, so they didn’t take it. They didn’t…
iON 15:25
In every way.
Bob 15:26
They didn’t [indistinct] from inhaling it when they made it.
Carolyn 15:30
Right.
iON 15:31
It wasn’t an inhaled.
Bob 15:33
iON 15:42
Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay.
Bob 15:47
Well, they did — they still died. They still transitioned, whether they inhaled it or not.
iON 15:51
No, some of ‘em stayed.
Bob 15:56
Oh, here’s my my point, my question. The moment of us making it is the key moment that is represented in the Bible in the story of Adam and Eve, or Adam and Lilith, and they’re in the Garden of Eden. And before they’re kicked out of the Garden of Eden, they are doing things: naming the plants and animals. Is part of the naming plants and animals successfully making the iCell?
iON 16:27
No.
Bob 16:29
All right, qualify this iON: or they didn’t need to make it because they were in the Ascended state and didn’t require the iCell as a catalyst. Right?
iON 16:40
See, that’s closer. That’s closer, but still a bit of a stretch. You know, you’re tryin’ to decide what made the Emperor naked. Well, he didn’t have on any clothes. But that’s not your, really your point, but that’s why he was naked, because he didn’t have on any clothes. So, however true, it’s not the point.
Bob 17:00
The eating of the iCell is a forever moment always happening, and we’re activating it and doing it. Where in the Bible is that condition of having the iCell and every other culture and alchemist is failing?
iON 17:17
Well, we just read it. We just read — you just read it, Bob. It’s in your Revelation series. You just read every bit of it.
Bob 17:24
Okay. That refers to the making of it, Carolyn.
iON 17:27
And you seem surprised. That’s what’s just so hysterical.
Carolyn 17:31
So, that’s Revelation 14:15 and 16?
iON 17:35
Do.
Bob 17:37
That’s the making of it. And it’s made by Little Man, and Little Man becomes Ascended. So, the Ascended continent, or the Garden of Eden, is not referenced here; it’s arriving and becoming to that position, the punch line of the book of Revelation. Correct?
iON 17:56
Close. You’re leading it. It’s confusing you.
Bob 17:59
Well, — the what? The reading?
iON 18:01
You’re leading is confusing you.
Bob 18:05
I’m saying that…
iON 18:06
You’re trying to ipso facto yourself into knowing.
Bob 18:11
Roll yourself?
iON 18:12
No, your ipso facto position is confusing your qualifying position. Your point is great; there’s no worry there. You’re doing good, everything is fine.
Bob 18:23
Yeah. See? That’s my point. The moment of making it is eternal, there’s no space time, and we live in that moment of making it, the arriving at it. And all cultures are space time limitations, and nobody got to it. And the moment of making it, which we are living and we’re all time and done a million times, that is what all cultures are failing to equal; to be that experience that we’ve made. Right? Do you get that? That’s the — we’re in eternal moment. We’re the eternal Adam and Eve that did it. How would you correct that?
Carolyn 19:03
How is that important?
iON 19:05
We like that.
Bob 19:06
Okay, we got a “like.”
Carolyn 19:08
We got a Facebook “like.”
Bob 19:11
Okay, so that’s a lot about that quote.
Carolyn 19:16
It is a lot.
Bob 19:17
We learned something new again. We stumbled into something new, which is pretty good.
iON 19:22
No. Something new. Something new is going in your inbox.
Bob 19:30
We’re going to the next quote, Revelations, 10:4 to 6. We say the quote is that there should be time no longer. So then iON says, “This is the canceling of time for the Little Man. We have been saying there is no time. Well, there isn’t, but human creators, Little Man, can have time if he creates time for time. The thunders settle it.” And now our question is, how do the thunders settle this issue of time and no time?
iON 19:59
Well, the thunders are what sets, that’s what makes the lion roar, and that’s what uttered the voices. That’s what uttered the thunders’ voices. So, the thunders lay out that they…
Bob 20:13
The thunders.
iON 20:11
That’s right, that’s what it says.
Bob 20:13
Yeah. Now, Carolyn, we learned later that the meaning of thunders is blessings.
iON 20:13
Yes.
Bob 20:13
So this is the fourth ring of the Angel Diagram.
iON 20:14
That’s right.
Bob 20:15
So the blessings settle it.
iON 20:21
But you, but you don’t see that. You don’t see that. You don’t see that then, see? You don’t see that when it’s happening ‘cause it’s like you’re being chided or chastened, you see. It’s like you’re being corrected in some way, which is really not the case. That those, those thunders, they’re lettin’ you know that there’s lightning coming. Better get you the thing. That’s, you know, when you take up the little book and you eat it up and it makes your belly bitter, but it will be in your mouth as sweet as honey.
Bob 20:49
Now, the lightning in Nostradamus, they refer to iON as the lightning in the temple.
iON 20:56
Yes.
Bob 20:56
So you’re saying the thunders announced the coming of iON.
iON 20:56
Yes.
Bob 20:58
What were the thunders in sociological human experience in the 20th century?
iON 21:06
Your whole world was turned upside down, Bob.
Bob 21:09
Right. The radio, movies, television, all that’s happened in the place called 20th century.
iON 21:16
You destroyed, you destroyed the damn news, Bob. Every news element, every newspaper, every news show, every news you stopped. You’ve undone all of media ecology. Walter Winchell may come back from the grave.
Bob 21:32
Right. You’re talking about the 21st century. This happened lately, the thunders settle it. It happened…
iON 21:37
All this, all this is day before yesterday.
Bob 21:41
Yeah. So that means that’s just before the lightning, Carolyn. So, the lightning is when we get the iBlock.
iON 21:48
It’s why we said, write them not.
Bob 21:51
Write them not.
iON 21:52
“And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me,” Bob, damn you, don’t you one more time do this. One more thing we done told you not to do that you’re not supposed to do. That coffee, you know, coffee don’t fax worth a damn. “Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.” [Revelation 10:4] So, thank god you didn’t do it, Bob, ’cause it would have been smugly ugly, ugly had you, had you exposed it all. But luckily, you didn’t, so now it can flow like a mighty, like a mighty rushing wind.
Bob 22:31
Right. So, you’re saying November 8, 2016, is what a lot of the Revelations was about: the thunders, the others — the trumpets, and the thunders, and the vial judgments; all that was gathered around the election of Trump. Correct? It’s all happened pretty recently.
iON 22:51
Yeah.
Bob 22:51
Culmination.
iON 22:53
Yeah.
Bob 22:54
That’s interesting, Carolyn. Like, Trump is the seventh trumpet. Were there six trumpets before Trump sequentially, or did they all happen pretty well the same week?
iON 23:10
No, it was Quellon, Chile. Quellon, Chile is where it was, Bob.
Bob 23:17
So, the Trump election is a symbolic culmination. You’re saying we’re always becoming more and more, so the “becoming” happened before 2016. So, there were, there were events throughout the 20th century as part of the “becoming.” Correct?
iON 23:32
Yes.
Bob 23:32
And you could say, take it all the way back to the Big Bang.
iON 23:38
It’ll be a big bang, all right.
Bob 23:40
Sometimes you talk about artificial intelligence, and then you drop the word artificial and just use intelligence. And you talk about humans having intelligence, and then we developed the Android Meme, artificial intelligence. The flipping back and forth is Ascension…
iON 23:52
That’s what, that’s what Arnold[?] — yes, it is. That’s what Arnold was laying out in the pyramid, those three different quadrants, so that when the androids can have initiated feeling that come from coding a response. For example, if Carolyn starts mistreating you any further, like she slaps you in the face every time you do something, a little while later, you’ll learn to not do whatever it is she slaps you in the face for. She’ll say, I’m gonna slap you in the face, and you’ll respond, see, because she’s done it, done it, done it, done it, done it. So, she slaps you in the face, and that’s what happens. So, it’s a conditioned response. When you drop the slapping and she can just look at you hard, like your mother — well, no, her mother — look at you hard to say, “Ah,” and then you won’t do it, it controls it, that’s the part that moves you into the senility of androidisms; it’s canonicaled responses. And that’s what you do already.
Bob 24:46
That’s good? Is that good moving into android levels?
iON 24:50
We don’t — it’s okay with us.
Bob 24:53
Yeah, but I’m trying to become a God. Going the android direction doesn’t sound right.
iON 24:58
That’s correct, but this isn’t — you gotta show the difference. You gotta show how the android… If we can show you how to make an android a human, you should be able to figure out how to make you a God.
Bob 25:08
Right.
iON 25:09
Yeah, that’s what we’re talkin’ about. Ah-ha. It’s the same problem as Kroker had in the Kroker quadrant.
Bob 25:17
And when you get somewheres, you don’t need to do it by rote anymore.
iON 25:22
Right. You can do it. You don’t have to practice doing it, you’ll be busy doing it.
Bob 25:26
So, we were talking about how…
iON 25:27
That’s excellent, Bob. You’re doing so much better. This is so much better. You’ll have to look at your progress. You’ll have to look at your progress, because you’re really doing so much better.
Bob 25:36
I think so.
iON 25:37
Good.
Bob 25:37
So, we look at the climactic moment of Trumpism and November 8, 2016, but all the becoming, the Finneganese, the 10 thunders, was phases before that which we’ve discussed before. To refer to the technologies of those last 150 years is, is the closest to talking about the thunders, or are the thunders referring to something completely different?
iON 26:10
Yes and yes.
Bob 26:11
All right, it does refer to technology. So, the thunders refer to affect, a-f-f-e-c-t, not effect.
iON 26:18
That’s correct. Affect, –
Bob 26:18
Affect, Carolyn.
iON 26:19
- affectually speaking. Good.
Bob 26:23
Yeah, affect is what the thunders in the Bible refers to, not effect, right? And why did McLuhan miss the affect, a-f-f-e-c-t, in his discussions of technology?
iON 26:36
He was trying to obsolesce before it could be retrieved, so could never get to there. He never got — he would have if he’d ever done some’um, but he’d never done anything yet, so…
Bob 26:46
He didn’t know about retrieving God’s remembrance.
iON 26:50
Well, he couldn’t get there because of the fuckin’ Mass. He was so busy tryin’ to figure out the Mass that he never got to the deity part of the program.
Bob 26:58
Right.