[25 October 2014, Part 2]
(53:01 mark)
Caller 1: iON, with the Living Water, are the spiritual gifts going to become more to the fore?
iON: Yep, you’re actually going to find out what they are. You’re just dicking with them now. You wait until we get that little pup wet, you won’t know which end is up!
Caller 1: So, it’s going to be different for each one when they take as to which gifts start to emerge?
iON: No, it’s going to be all of them.
Caller 1: Is it going to be like spontaneous telepathy or…
iON: Ha! Ha! Ha!
Caller 2: You mean, all gifts are going to merge?
iON: You mean “telekinesis”, don’t you?
Caller 1: Good!
Caller 2: iON, do you mean that all of the gifts are going to merge?
iON: Yes.
Transcribed by Bart.
[25 October 2014, Part 3]
iON: “The gifts of the spirit are the part of you that’s not God. The gifts of the spirit are the part of you that’s not God. Because you don’t need a gift from an outer being that brings you into the superfluous knowing that you’re God, if you’re God.
So, that’s the little man adaptation, to get you the forty days – April, May and Jewvember, because now it’s lent, now. So, now they’ve got to get ready for the Ascension. No, crucifixion. No, wait. It’s April, May and Jewvember. Wait, let’s see. Passover is in April. Forty days from Wednesday is next Tuesday. After it Thursday. Purim is between there. And then we’re going to blow the shofar after Passover. And count the omer. Don’t forget counting the omer. We’re going to do that again, too, every day. Forty-nine crazy days.
So, basically, this sets up the upper room experience of how to get the Holy Spirit and not be God. See, the reason that the Holy Spirit was given is because you were a little man. So, they gave you the Holy Spirit. That’s what the New Testament said. They gave you the Holy Spirit, so you could make it as a little man until you could be with God. That’s what the book said.”
Deb: “Well, that makes sense. Because I was reading through some notes I had on the gifts of the Holy Spirit. And one was a gift of wisdom, which a God would already have. And the other was the gift of… and this was in some theology. And the other was the gift of understanding… and corresponding to faith as a virtue. So, you would need faith, right? Because faith is self-image.”
iON: “Mhmm.”
Deb: “But it’s not the Christian concept of faith of something out there that will make it happen for me… They also talked about having the gift of the fear of the Lord, which would correspond to having hope as a virtue–”
iON: “– Well, that’s more like wonder. You’re talking about wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety, and fear of the Lord, or wonder.”
Deb: “So, that would make sense that a little man would need the gifts, but a God would just know.”
iON: “Right. So, now you’ve got the fruits of the Holy Spirit. That would end up being charity, chastity, generosity, gentleness, goodness and faithfulness. And the last six – so, you would have hendiadys – would be joy, kindness, modesty, peace, patience and self-control. And God needs none of those.”
PAYDAY, 2/25/2017, 1900hr
iON: “The gifts of the spirit are the part of you that’s not God. The gifts of the spirit are the part of you that’s not God. Because you don’t need a gift from an outer being that brings you into the superfluous knowing that you're God, if you're God.
So, that’s the little man adaptation, to get you the forty days – April, May and Jewvember, because now it's lent, now. So, now they've got to get ready for the Ascension. No, crucifixion. No, wait. It's April, May and Jewvember. Wait, let's see. Passover is in April. Forty days from Wednesday is next Tuesday. After it Thursday. Purim is between there. And then we're going to blow the shofar after Passover. And count the omer. Don’t forget counting the omer. We’re going to do that again, too, every day. Forty-nine crazy days.
So, basically, this sets up the upper room experience of how to get the Holy Spirit and not be God. See, the reason that the Holy Spirit was given is because you were a little man. So, they gave you the Holy Spirit. That’s what the New Testament said. They gave you the Holy Spirit, so you could make it as a little man until you could be with God. That’s what the book said.”
Deb: "Well, that makes sense. Because I was reading through some notes I had on the gifts of the Holy Spirit. And one was a gift of wisdom, which a God would already have. And the other was the gift of… and this was in some theology. And the other was the gift of understanding… and corresponding to faith as a virtue. So, you would need faith, right? Because faith is self-image."
iON: "Mhmm."
Deb: "But it’s not the Christian concept of faith of something out there that will make it happen for me… They also talked about having the gift of the fear of the Lord, which would correspond to having hope as a virtue–"
iON: "– Well, that’s more like wonder. You’re talking about wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety, and fear of the Lord, or wonder."
Deb: "So, that would make sense that a little man would need the gifts, but a God would just know."
iON: "Right. So, now you've got the fruits of the Holy Spirit. That would end up being charity, chastity, generosity, gentleness, goodness and faithfulness. And the last six – so, you would have hendiadys – would be joy, kindness, modesty, peace, patience and self-control. And God needs none of those."