[“PAYDAY: This is an answer to any question” 7 September 2019]
(30:46 mark)
Bob: Definitely, Trump… just like Florence Nightingale was the figure for the telegraph era, Hitler was the figure for the radio era. Umm, maybe the Beatles were the figure for the TV era.
iON: TV! TV! No! No! No! Hitler was TV! Hitler was the first TV.
Bob: He was radio. I’m talking about what McLuhan says in “Understanding Media” – in the book that Jack’s going to read.
iON: Oh, we’re sorry!
Bob: And Charlie Chaplin was the figure for movies.
iON: Marge (Stewart, McLuhan’s secretary – Ed.) has got to clean that up.
Bob: Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! So, can we say, iON – in that line of McLuhan pattern – that Trump is the figure for the Tech Body era? Can we say that?
iON: Sure, we don’t care.
Bob: Because he… well, no, we want you to care a little bit. It’s intertwined…
iON: Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Bob: … the intertwining of the Tech Body is symbolized by Trump for the popular consciousness.
