Egyptian Book of the Dead Transcript, 23 November 2019

Payday

Transcribed by Nan

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Bob 0:01
Okay, so I’m ready for you people to start your interrogation of the Egyptian Book of ghosts.

iON 0:06
Oh, lord. Thank fucking god, it’s only 10:30. Good. We’re glad you started some day. If we don’t get paid by the hour, we’d get out, we’d be out of work. Who are those who preside over their altars? Okay, go ahead.

Carolyn 0:23
Well, you know what’s going on with this section of the Dead Book of Bob? It’s a bunch of degrees of separation.

iON 0:34
Of course.

Carolyn 0:35
Who, what, when, where, how. It’s horrible, I don’t think we should do anymore. I think we know what’s going on here.

Bob 0:41
Well, we do, but it’s laid out from a different condition. People are alive in this respect, some people are dead. And so this gives the counterculture respects of a degree of separation from a dead place. So, they wouldn’t know; so, who are those who preside over their altars? They don’t have a clue. You see, that’s the rub.

Thank you.

iON 1:06
That’s the rub. It’s the antiphonal side. It’s the antiphonal side of the coefficient of aliveness. And so you have to lay it out and –

Bob 0:42
If we followed Carolyn, we wouldn’t learn nothin’. She’s always trying to run off fast just to surface skim. I mentioned this in the private session. You’ll hear more details about it, but this is another example. Thank you, iON, for keeping the straight and true path, and deep.

Carolyn 1:35
The antiphonal side of the coefficient of what?

Bob 1:39
The antiphonal? Look at that. Carolyn using a big word: the antiphonal.

Carolyn 1:42
That’s what iON just said.

iON 1:44
She’s been a ses – she’s been a sesquipedalian, she’s been a sesquipedalian for years, Bob.

Bob 1:51
Heh heh. Okay, all right, if you say so.

Carolyn 1:54
Okay, we begin: "Who are those who preside over their altars? (Carolyn: and the quoted answer) "Those who preside over their altars are the similitude of the Eye of Ra, and the similitude of the Eye of Horus." (Carolyn: So, it’s this side and that side) "O Ra-Tem, thou Lord of the Great House {in Amu}, thou Sovereign (life, strength, health {be to thee})" Ha ha, Bob’s shuffling through the house like an old man. It’s horrible, iON. Okay.

iON 2:33
Hey, but we got rid of the death rattle, though. He ain’t got the death rattle no more.

Carolyn 2:38
That’s true. Thank you. I appreciate it. It was very annoying.

iON 2:43
True.

Carolyn 2:43
"thou Sovereign (life, strength, health {be to thee}) of all the gods, deliver thou the scribe Nebseni, whose word is truth, from the god whose face is like unto that of a greyhound, whose brows are like those of a man, who feedeth upon the dead, who watcheth at the Bend of the Lake of Fire, who devoureth the bodies of the dead, and swalloweth hearts, and who voideth filth, but who himself remaineth unseen." Okay, this greyhound. A lot of the Egyptian pictures on the walls, they had a look of greyhound about them. Is that what they’re referring to?

iON 3:33
Do.

Carolyn 3:34
Yeah.

iON 3:34
It is. It is. It is shaped. Like the cats protect the dead in the pyramids. They can take over spirits and things the same way with the cats.

Carolyn 3:47
Yeah. Okay, so then it’s describing, you know, Nebseni and brows feedeth. So, feeding off the dead we got –

iON 3:59
The devourer. The devourer.

Carolyn 4:05
Right. Yeah. So, you have to devour something before you can live again. Right, iON?

iON 4:14
Ah, if you’re in their position. If you’re in their position, uh huh.

Carolyn 4:18
Uh huh. Okay, so, maybe we’ll just keep going: "Who is this greyhound-faced god? "His name is ‘Everlasting Devourer,’ (Carolyn: as iON just said) and he liveth in the Domain {of Fire} (the Lake of Unt)." And now what’s interesting is right now California is burning up. So, it’s like fire is the harbinger of the next step. Correct?

iON 4:48
Yeah, and Australia is burning up, too.

Carolyn 4:54
Right. I didn’t – okay, good. They’ve got to get their carbon in. Okay, the harbinger, and continuing: "As concerning the Domain of Fire, it is that Aat which is in Naarutef, and is near the Sheniu chamber." So, they’re describing where it is.

iON 5:25
Yeah.

Carolyn 5:25
Continuing: "The sinner who walketh over this place falleth down among the knives {of the Watchers.}" So, the Watchers aren’t taking action but –

iON 5:37
Correct. But, they’re – but yeah, they’re on it though. ‘Cuz, see, they’ll stand in the way. Now, it’s not the same way that the Watchers were. The Watchers are a little different in the Book of the Dead reference than the Watchers, say, in "Fringe. In "Fringe" they’re a little bit different. They’re a hair bit more proactive because these jokers are dead.

Carolyn 5:58
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

iON 5:59
They do what they want to do. They got no regard.

Carolyn 6:02
Yeah. Okay. Yeah, they do what they want to do. Okay. Continuing : "Others, however, say that the name of this god is ‘Mates,’ and that he keepeth watch over the door of Amentet; others say that his name is ‘Beba,’ Now when they do this; some say this, some say the others, that’s again bouncing back between live and dead. Correct, iON?

iON 6:32
Live and dead and juxtaposed positions, too.

Carolyn 6:38
Yeah. So, tell us what is the juxtapose position, iON.

iON 6:43
Oh, it’s like when you’re on one side of the counter, and then you’re on the other side of the counter. If you can condition between the two sides of the counter, that would be a juxtaposable position. If you can see yourself on the other side of the mirror, those positions would be juxtaposed to each other. Meaning, you could replace yourself in the condition that you are. You could replace yourself in the condition that you are.

Carolyn 7:18
Thank you. I’m just laughing. Bob found the treats that I bought him. He’s just like a little kid.

iON 7:24
Ah, he’s in it now. You know he’s going to eat every single one of them right now, too. You know that, right?

Carolyn 7:29
I mean, he’s got me stuck here for an hour and it’s all over.

iON 7:33
He’s got it. He’s on, he’s on, he’s on like Donkey Kong. There’ll be nothing left but the dim memory of the treat.

Bob 7:41
Yes, Carolyn’s brought home "Upcountry" magazine, which is about different parts of Maui: Pa’ia, Hana and Ha’iku. On the cover’s a picture of Oprah and it says: "Oprah’s Bountiful Life on Maui." I’ll have to read the article about my neighbor.

Carolyn 7:59
Heh heh For you, Bob, it is for you. Okay. Continuing: "and that he keepeth watch over the Bend {of the stream} of Amentet, and yet others say (Carolyn: Okay, keepeth watch over the Bend of the stream. So, that, that would be that juxtaposed position. It’s not straight and –

iON 8:24
You see yourself coming.

Carolyn 8:25
– yeah, yeah, yeah.) And continuing: "and yet others say that his name is ‘Herisepef.’ "Hail, Lord of Terror, (Carolyn: there’s Bob again) Chief of the lands of the South and North, thou Lord of the Desert," (Carolyn: Now, iON has said the direction – the main direction that we pay attention to is East. So, this being South and North, do they have any influence?

iON 8:58
They do because that’s where Bob watches the ups and downs of it from the wind and the winds blowing from the south and it hits him in the face, and he’s facing south so the wind’s going north. Yep, that one.

Carolyn 9:16
So, they’re important, okay. Continuing: "who dost keep prepared the block of slaughter, and who dost feed on the intestines {of men}!" Yeah, I mean degree of separation. Who’s benefiting from this watering and intestinal fortitude?

iON 9:39
These people are trying to get out of that condition. And if they don’t, this is what happens to their guts. They get eat.

Carolyn 9:46
Yeah.

iON 9:46
So, if you don’t get prepared, if you don’t prepared the block of slaughter and who dost feed on the intestines of men. Eat the babies! as LaRouche would say. Eat the babies.

Carolyn 10:02
Got it. Okay, so then we get to the next question already: "Who is the Lord of Terror?" And, an aside, besides Bob, their answer is: "It is the Keeper of the Bend {of the stream} of Amentet." So, yeah, you terrorize –

iON 10:20
So, the Lord of Terror is the juxtaposed Bob. And you look in the mirror and when Bob looks back at you, it terrorizes you. Either because you’re afraid of Bob, or you’re upset because you can’t look as good as he looks. Can’t look as good as Bob, so if you look less than Bob, and see, and Bob doesn’t even like to look at people who aren’t pretty. They gotta be really good looking or he’s not even gonna look at them. So, it becomes a really –

Carolyn 10:52
Ah huh, but, see, Bob, he is so handsome, he won’t even let me cut his hair to make him look more handsome because he knows –

iON 11:02
No, he’s tryin’ to – he’s tryin’ to keep it full. See, ‘cuz you know, it all fell out and it all grew back. And so he’s doing this Wavy Gravy since he’s got all this hair back, you see. And you got that, you got that fancy little shampoo stuff that’s even better. He’s in a swa – he’s GQ’n it over there.

Carolyn 11:23
Heh heh. Very true.

iON 11:24
Sauve, Rico Sauve. Well, what do you, do like you did with Worcester and get him some of them damn ponytail clippers and put it up in a damn ponytail. And then he’ll let you braid it. It’ll be right.

Carolyn 11:35
Oh, yeah, I could. I could braid it. I could do that. All right.

iON 11:39
Plant it. We could lay some plants in there. It’d be good. Get you some good mud. That’d be good. Get some dreadlocks.

Carolyn 11:44
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

iON 11:46
Dreadlocks. Cornrows.

Carolyn 11:47
He’s combed his hair with dirt. Yeah. He’s been dirting his hair. Seriously, iON, never in 1000 years would I expect Bob to actually take dirt up in his hands and rub it in his hair.

iON 12:01
Touch his hands! You mean he didn’t have gloves on? He’s supposed to wear gloves. He’s not supposed to let the dirt touch his hands. Oh no, that’s terrible. (laughing)

Carolyn 12:12
You got him wrapped around your little finger. I’m sorry.

iON 12:17
And he’s alive! And darlin’, he’s alive to tell you about it, too.

Carolyn 12:21
Yep. Next question: "Who is this Keeper?" Now, did we have Keeper in the previous words?

iON 12:27
Yeah.

Carolyn 12:28
Let me go back here. Playing Bob.

iON 12:29
Yes, is this the Keeper of the Bend of the stream. This is Bob. Bob.

Carolyn 12:37
"Who is this Keeper? "It is the Heart of Osiris, which is the devourer of all slaughtered things. "The Urrt Crown

iON 12:45
Yep.

Carolyn 12:45
"hath been given unto him, with gladness of heart as Lord of Hensu." Now, this heart business. This is interesting because we think of what was done in other cultures where they just took the, you know, they went in and did the psychic surgery and took the heart – the still beating heart out. So, did they know the heart was the something of the matter and the matter of the heart?

iON 13:12
Yeah. Yeah, heart of the matter is a matter of the heart. That’s exactly right. So, it’s divisible by itself; meaning, it can psychically be removed from the sack. That’s what they did when the Spear of Destiny with Jesus, when they pierced the pericardium and the water came first and then the blood. Yeah. Quite metaphorically inferred.

Carolyn 13:38
Yeah. Awesome. Okay, next question. "Who is this?" Okay. So, the who we’re asking about again is the Keeper. No, it’s probably the Lord of Hensu.

iON 13:55
Do.

Carolyn 13:56
So: "Who is this? "He to whom the Urrt Crown hath been given with gladness of heart

iON 14:06
Crown. Urrt Crown. Urrt Crown.

Carolyn 14:06
"Urrt Crown hath been given with gladness of heart as Lord of Hensu is Osiris. He was bidden to rule among the gods on the day of the union of earth {with earth} in the presence of Nebertcher." "Who is this?"

iON 14:26
Do you see? Do you see, though? The you and you, the

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iON 0:00
You can be in the earth and be alive, and you can be in the earth and be dead. And you can be dead in the earth and alive in the earth. So, the union between the live and the dead, only referenced here because this is for those on the dead side. Now you get the benefit of being on the live side, lookin’ at the dead side knowing what to do. To not only can you run the angels, not only can you rule over the dead, not only can you apply all these knowings and conditions that apply into that other realm. See, you have other dimensions to deal with, but the other realms you also get the inside of. And that’s what this gives you a heads up on so you don’t get tangled up in your own shit or get lost up "Schitt’s Creek."

Carolyn 0:50
"Schitt’s Creek," yeah. Ha ha. Okay, awesome. "Who is this? "He who was bidden to rule among the gods is the son of Isis (Horus), who was appointed to rule

iON 1:03
Issy.

Carolyn 1:03
Oh, Isi- yeah, I-s-i-_

iON 1:05
(laughs)

Carolyn 1:14
Stop it. It’s not me at all.

iON 1:14
Not Issy. Not Carolyn at all.

Carolyn 1:14
I remove myself. Yeah. "He who was bidden to rule among the gods is the son of Isis (Horus), who was appointed to rule in the room of his father Osiris. "As concerning {the words} ‘day of the union of earth with earth,’ they have reference to the union of earth with earth in the coffin of Osiris, the Soul that liveth in Hensu, the giver of meat and drink, the destroyer of wrong, and the guide to the everlasting paths." So, yeah, if we get through the earth, the earth and this and that, then we go on to the everlasting paths. So, it’s looking good here. Okay, iON?

iON 2:03
Perfect.

Carolyn 2:03
"Who is this? "It is Ra himself."

Text Not Read 2:04
"{Deliver thou the Osiris the scribe Ani, whose word is truth} from the great god who carrieth away souls, who eateth hearts, who feedeth upon offal, who keepeth watch in the darkness, who dwelleth in the Seker Boat; those who live in sin fear him."

Carolyn 2:11
"Who is this? "It is Suti, but others say that it is Smamur, the soul of Keb. "Hail, Khepera in thy boat, the two Companies of the Gods are in thy body. Deliver thou the Osiris the scribe Ani, whose word is truth, from the Watchers who pass sentences of doom, who have been appointed by the god Nebertcher to protect him, and to fasten the fetters on his foes, and who slaughter in the torture chambers; there is no escape from their fingers. May they never stab me with their knives, may I never fall helpless into their chambers of torture. I have never done the things which the gods hate. I am he who is pure in the Mesqet chamber. And saffron cakes have been brought unto him in Tannt." So, what – I mean, it’s a game saying that I’m, I’m pure and truthful and I’m getting through all this crap. Correct, iON?

iON 3:29
Basically. Basically, and not steppin’ in it.

Carolyn 3:35
Yeah. Okay. And: "Who is this? "It is Khepera in his boat; is Ra himself." So, we’re always – the other names which imply other realms, etc., but it always comes back to Ra himself; which, I mean, if we think of us being god, we are Ra. That’s what we’re gettin’ to finally. Isn’t it, iON?

iON 4:09
Finally, if you can recognize it and bring yourself to it. That’s what they call is Ra.

Carolyn 4:15
Yeah. So, it always comes back to us. Right?

iON 4:22
So far.

Carolyn 4:24
Yeah. Continuing: "As concerning the Watchers (Carolyn: And as you say, they’re not just watchin’) who pass sentences of doom, they are the Apes Isis and Nephthys. "As concerning the things which the gods hate, (Carolyn: small "g") they are acts of deceit and lying. He who passeth through the place of purification (Carolyn: Now, this place of purification is that the – us judging ourselves as we -)

iON 5:08
Well, the process of that.

Carolyn 5:12
Yeah, yeah. Okay, the process. Got it. And continuing: "within the Mesqet chamber is Anpu (Anubis) who is hard by the coffer which containeth the inward parts of Osiris. He to whom saffron cakes have been brought in Tannt is Osiris. "Others, however, say (Carolyn: So, we’re going back and forth. Some say this, some say that. So.) "Others, however, say that the saffron cakes in Tannt represent heaven and earth, (Carolyn: One or the other) and others say that they represent Shu, the strengthener of the Two Lands (Carolyn: So, back and forth) in Hensu; and others say that they represent the Eye of Horus, and that Tannt is the burial-place of Osiris. "Tem hath builded thy house, (Carolyn: Now, I guess they’re gonna say who is Tem, but anyway) "Tem hath builded thy house, and the double (Carolyn: One side or another) Lion-god hath laid the foundations of thy habitation." Now this, this makes me think of Key number 4, –

iON 6:51
Yes.

Carolyn 6:51
– laying out the 33rd parallel, is to find a place to be.

iON 6:56
Spaces, yeah. And see, this is from a different dimension, too, which makes it even more potentially – even more, much more challenging.

Carolyn 7:05
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, to get that latitude.

iON 7:12
Because they’re under it. See, they’re under it, so they don’t get the same benefit of foresightedness as you.

Carolyn 7:22
Okay. Continuing: "Lo! Medicaments (Carolyn: That’s our completement formulas) have been brought. Horus purifieth Set and Set strengtheneth, and Set purifieth and Horus strengtheneth. "The Osiris the scribe Ani, whose word is truth before Osiris, hath come into this land, and he hath taken possession thereof with his two feet." So, with the two feet, is one foot in one place and one foot in the other, iON?

iON 8:04
Well, but now, the two feet, he’s coming into this place. He’s going to get somebody.

Carolyn 8:12
Now, he’s got his two feet together.

iON 8:16
Ah huh.

Carolyn 8:18
Okay. Got it. " He is Tem, and he is in the city. "Turn thou back, O Rehu, whose mouth shineth, whose head moveth, turn thou back before his strength." Another reading is, ‘Turn thou back from him who keepeth watch, and is himself unseen.’ So, they’re tryin’ to get this person to turn back, but that’s probably not the right thing to do. Right, iON?

iON 8:51
Correct. They’re tryin’ to keep them in the dead aisle. But, that’s the one they know; so, it’s not too odd that they would.

Carolyn 9:00
Got it. Continuing: "Let the Osiris Ani be safely guarded. He is Isis, and he is found with her hair spread over him;" Is she protecting him, iON?

iON 9:20
Yes. Stands in the gateway. But, that was Isis’ job all along, remember?

Carolyn 9:29
Ah, now, is that Key 15, protection?

iON 9:34
Ah, well, Key – that lays out protection. Key 15 is how you call for the condition, not actually protection. It’s the condition that makes you be protected.

Carolyn 9:50
So, they’re different. This is not –

iON 9:52
They are.

Carolyn 9:53
– a medical –

iON 9:53
The perspective, the perspective. Dead people don’t need saving.

Carolyn 10:00
Okay, yeah. But, they need transforming, right?

iON 10:07
That is the rub. That’s exactly right. Good. I mean, ‘cuz dead people talk with us.

Carolyn 10:15
Yeah.

iON 10:16
Like the little boy in the movie, "Sixth Sense," he walked up to, to what’s his name? The renegade from –

Carolyn 10:26
Bruce Willis.

iON 10:26
– Bruce Willis, and said: "I see dead people." Yeah, ‘cuz Bruce Willis was dead and he didn’t even know it either.

Carolyn 10:35
Oh, and neither did we. They kept that from us the whole movie. Okay, continuing: "it is shaken out over his brow. (Carolyn: Okay, I better go back.) "Let the Osiris Ani be safely guarded. He is Isis, and he is found with her hair spread over him; it is shaken out over his brow. He was conceived by Isis, and engendered by Nephthys, and they have cut away from him the things which should be cut from him. (Carolyn: Hmm. And then they have) "Fear followeth after thee, terror is about thine arms." Are they cutting out fear? What are they cutting out?

iON 11:26
Well, they’re keeping them amped-up. They’re keeping them juiced up. It’s like when Bob gets the crowd riled up. You know?

Carolyn 11:38
So they’re keeping them amped up by scaring them?

iON 11:43
Yeah, chasin’ them around, knocking their damn heads off and stuff. You know, normal stuff.

Carolyn 11:48
Yeah. Heh heh heh. Okay, good. Continuing: "Thou hast been embraced for millions of years by arms; mortals go round about thee. Thou smitest down the mediators of thy foes, and thou seizest the arms of the power of darkness. Thy two sisters (Isis and Nephthys) are given to thee for thy delight." Now, is that nefarious giving over?

iON 12:28
Not necessarily. It’s how they use it. Not that they’re offered. It’s what they do with it.

Carolyn 12:34
Okay, okay. Not necessariy. Continuing: "Thou hast created that which is in Kher-aha, and that which is Anu. Every god feareth thee, for thou art exceedingly great and terrible; thou {avengest} every god on the man who curseth him, and thou shootest arrows at him. Thou livest according to thy will. Thou art Uatchet, the Lady of Flame, evil befalleth those who set themselves up against thee." Okay, so, I don’t know if they’re going to go into – to who is the Lady of Flame. but everything starts with fire as I’m noticing –

iON 13:32
Yeah.

Carolyn 13:32
– as they’re just now introducing her.

iON 13:36
They’re trying to figure out how they’re going to deal with the dross that the fire produces.

Carolyn 13:43
Oh, I thought it was fire that burnt away the dross.

iON 13:50
It would, but the dross is what’s left over.

Carolyn 13:53
Wow, I had it wrong. Okay, so, what are they gonna do with the dross. Okay. Next question: "What is this? "Hidden in form, given of Menhu,’ is the name of the" tomb. ‘He who seeth what is on his hand’ is the name of Qerau, or, as others (Carolyn: Okay, Qerau. Q-e-r-a-u. Is that "Q," iON?)

iON 14:24
No, no no. It sounds good. It’d be a good rub if you can get it, but it’s a little stretch. It’s not that important.

Carolyn 14:34
"Q’s" not that important. Okay, is – yeah, that’s fine. "Q’s" not that important. Continuing: "or, as others say, it is the name of the Block. "Now, he whose mouth shineth and whose head moveth is the phallus of Osiris,"

iON 14:59
Right.

Carolyn 14:59
So, they’re describing the phallus: the mouth and the head? That’s a phallus? Ya ha!

iON 15:05
Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

Carolyn 15:07
Okay. The dick of Osiris. Got it.

iON 15:13
Go with phallactic acid.

Carolyn 15:16
Phallactic acid. You got it.

iON 15:18
Ha ha ha ha.

Carolyn 15:20
You’re so funny. "but others say it is {the phallus} of Ra." So, this one or that one.

iON 15:27
Yeah.

Carolyn 15:28
‘Thou spreadest thy hair, and I shake it out over his brow" (Carolyn: So, spreading hair and shaking over, that’s Isis’ hair again? Ah, ) is said concerning Isis, who hideth in her hair, and draweth it round about her. "Uatchet, the Lady of Flames, is the Eye of Ra." So, the Eye of Ra: open your eye and glare at someone and the fire comes forth, iON?

iON 16:04
Very much so.

Carolyn 16:08
Got it. So, would you like to give us a synopsis of what just happened? Because the next, it seems to be a different section, iON, called The Seven Arits, A-r-i-t-s.

iON 16:26
Arits. Arits. Yeah, it’s just settin’, it’s just settin’ up what’s, what’s happening. It gives you the playground of what’s possible. If you find yourself dead, or if you’re alive or especially a god and want to know how to deal with it, how to handle it, this tells you who’s working with whom and what you’re working with. Meaning, you don’t want to go against Ra and you don’t want to get all hemmed up in the phallus of Osiris. Ha ha ha. Tells you, gives you the running ground of what’s up. And that’s the sort of the details or parameters that you’ll engage by. And, so, now you’re gonna get these if you want to do these now.

Carolyn 17:13
Okay, so, the next step are these actions to be taken?

iON 17:18
Yep.

Carolyn 17:20
Okay.

Bob 17:22
Arit.

Carolyn 17:22
Arit. "THE SEVEN ARITS." And: "The First Arit. The name of the Doorkeeper (Carolyn: More names. Okay) The name of the Doorkeeper is Sekhet-her-asht-aru. The name of the Watcher is Smetti. The name of the Herald is Hakheru. The Osiris Ani, whose word is truth, shall say when he cometh unto the First Arit: "I am the mighty one who createth his own light." (Carolyn: Okay, good. So, he’s on the right track. Right, iON?)

iON 18:08
Yep.

Carolyn 18:12
Continuing: "I have come unto thee, O Osiris, and, purified from that which defileth thee, I adore thee." Okay, so, he’s saying I’ve taken your advice.

iON 18:29
I’ve gleaned what you gave me, I get it, and this is what I’m gonna do.

Carolyn 18:35
Got it. Okay. And continuing: "Lead on. Name not the name of Ra-stau to me. Homage to thee, O Osiris, in thy might and in thy strength in Ra-stau. Rise up and conquer, O Osiris, in Abtu. Thou goest round about heaven, thou sailest in the presence of Ra, thou lookest upon all the beings who have knowledge. Hail, Ra, thou who goest round about in the sky, I say, O Osiris in truth, that I am the Sahu (Spirit-body) of the god, (Carolyn: Is that the soul, iON?)

iON 19:29
Represents the soul, yes.

Carolyn 19:32
Okay, represents. Continuing: "and I beseech thee not to let me be driven away, nor to be cast upon the wall of blazing fire. Let the way be opened in Ra-stau, let the pain of the Osiris be relieved, embrace that which the Balance hath weighed, let a path be made for the Osiris in the Great Valley, and let the Osiris have light to guide him on his way." So, that’s pretty straightforward. Anything to add, iON?

iON 20:18
Ah, no, it just like that. Doing good.

Carolyn 20:23
"The Second Arit. The name of the Doorkeeper (Carolyn: So, there are different Doorkeepers for each Arit. So, is an Arit a door to go through?)

iON 20:40
A position.

Carolyn 20:41
It’s a position.

iON 20:41
Yeah, call it a position ‘cuz it may not – ‘cuz see, you get tangled up with a port or a portal or a gate. See, you get it all tangled up, so, door’s softer.

Carolyn 20:54
Yeah.

iON 20:55
Door is good.

Carolyn 20:57
Yeah, okay.

Carolyn 20:59
"The name of the Doorkeeper is Unhat. The name of the Watcher is Seqt-her. The name of the Herald is Ust. The Osiris Ani, whose word is truth, shall say {when he cometh to this Arit}: "He sitteth to carry out his heart’s desire," Now, that sounds like the 18th –

iON 20:59
Ta da.

Carolyn 21:00
– huh?

iON 21:18
Ta da.

Carolyn 21:31
Ha ha ha. This sounds like Key 18. Is it Key 18?

iON 21:40
It applies, yeah. Where you start the, the Aethyrs.

Carolyn 21:46
Yeah. So, that’s the end point. But, he sitteth to carry out his heart’s desire. It doesn’t say that he’s gotten it yet, so we have more to go. Okay, I see.

iON 22:00
Correct.

Carolyn 22:01
"and he weigheth words as the Second of Thoth. The strength which protecteth Thoth humbleth the hidden Maati gods, who feed upon Maat during the years of their lives. I offer up my offerings {to him} at the moment when he maketh his way. I advance, and I enter on the path. O grant thou that I may continue to advance, and that I may attain to the site of Ra, and of those who offer up {their} offerings." Okay, good. We’re movin’, we’re movin’ along. Right, iON?

iON 22:42
Yep, yep. Yep, all’s good.

Carolyn 22:45
Yeah.

iON 22:46
These are the markers that are straightforward.

Carolyn 22:49
Uh huh. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Straightforward. And when you say markers, that’s like position. Correct?

iON 23:00
Perfect. That’s good. But, then you can have to figure out where you are so you can juxtapose it to another place.

Carolyn 23:07
Right. "The Third Arit. The name of the Doorkeeper is Unem-hauatu-ent-pehui. The name of the Watcher is Seres-her. The name of the Herald is Aa. The Osiris, the scribe Ani, whose word is truth, shall say {when he cometh to this Arit}: "I am he who is hidden in the great deep. I am the Judge of the Rehui, I have come and I have done away the offensive thing which was upon Osiris. I tie firmly the place on which he standeth, coming forth from the Urt. I have stablished things in Abtu, I have opened up a way through Ra-stau, and I have relieved the pain which was in Osiris. I have balanced the place whereon he standeth, and I have made a path for him; he shineth brilliantly in Ra-stau." Now, the things he’s saying he’s done for Osiris, he’s doing for himself. Is that right, iON?

iON 24:25
Of course.

Carolyn 24:26
Heh heh. Got it. "The Fourth Arit. The name of the Doorkeeper (Carolyn: Let me do that) The name of the Doorkeeper is Khesef-her-asht-kheru. The name of the Watcher is Seres-tepu.The name of the Herald is Khesef-at. The Osiris the scribe Ani, whose word is truth, shall say {when he cometh to this Arit}: I am the Bull, the son of the ancestress of Osiris. O grant ye that his father, the Lord of his god-like companions, may bear witness on his behalf. I have weighed the guilty in judgment. I have brought unto his nostrils the life which is ever lasting. I am the son of Osiris, I have accomplished the journey, I have advanced in Khert-Neter." So, he’s got his breath back, iON. That’s pretty important. isn’t it?

iON 25:50
Of course.

Carolyn 25:54
Am I boring?

iON 25:56
No, we’re just rolling through these.

Carolyn 26:00
I know.

iON 26:00
They’re stackers. They’re stackers.

Carolyn 26:02
Stacckers. We’ll stack on the next one. The Fifth Arit. The name of the Doorkeeper is Ankhf-em-fent. The name of the Watcher is Shabu. The name of the Herald is Teb-her-kha-kheft. The Osiris the scribe Ani, whose word is truth, shall say {when he cometh to this Arit}: "I have brought unto thee the jawbone in Ra-stau. I have brought unto thee thy backbone in Anu. I have gathered together his manifold members therein. I have driven back Aapep for thee. I have spit upon the wounds {in his body}. I have made myself a path among you. I am the Aged One among the gods. I have made offerings to Osiris. I have defended him with the word of truth. I have gathered together his bones, and have collected all his members." His body parts –

iON 27:09
Parts of the part – yeah, he’s soaking them up to the point that now we come back and goin’: "Oh, wait a second. This is how this applies." So, it’s starting to build a bit.

Carolyn 27:11
Yeah, to get where our speaker wants to get, he has to rebuild his body, iON?

iON 27:36
Basically, yes.

Carolyn 27:40
Okay. Rebuild body. Right. "The Sixth Arit. The name of the Doorkeeper is Atek-tau-kehaq-kheru. The name of the Watcher is An-her. The name of the Herald is Ates-her-{ari}-she. The Osiris the scribe Ani, whose word is truth, shall say {when he cometh to this Arit}: "I have come daily. I have come daily. I have made myself a way. I have advanced over that which was created by Anpu (Anubis). I am the Lord of the Urrt Crown. I am the possessor {of the knowledge of} the words of magical power," Okay, so we’re finally talking about words here. That’s the next important step.

iON 28:41
That avenges something. The power only avenges.

Carolyn 28:47
Yeah. Okay, so, as iON says, continuing – avengers. "I am the Avenger according to law, I have avenged {the injury to} his Eye. I have defended Osiris. I have accomplished my journey. The Osiris Ani advanceth with you with the word which is truth." Okay, we got the word. We’re talkin’ it now. So, it’s coming into being –

iON 29:26
Yep, Well, you’re startin’ to get in the conditions of how far along it goes and how it applies from the dead side so you kind of get a perspective after a little while. It starts to build to a crescendo, and you can figure out from which point can engage and work to. No matter who you are or what you’re dealing with.

Carolyn 29:47
Right. Okay, now, there are seven Arits and we are at: "The Seventh Arit. The name of the Doorkeeper is Sekhmet-em-tsu-sen. The name of the Watcher is Aa-maa-kheru. The name of the Herald is Khesef-khemi. The Osiris, the scribe Ani, whose word is truth, shall say {when he cometh to this Arit}: "I have come unto thee, O Osiris, being purified from foul emissions. Thou goeth round about heaven, thou seest Ra, thou seest the beings who have knowledge. {Hail}, thou, ONE! (Carolyn: So, ONE is in all caps. So, we’re gettin’ somewhere.)

iON 30:41
Right. You’re arriving,

Carolyn 30:43
Arriving, oh. "Behold, thou art in the Sektet Boat (Carolyn: So, here we go. We’re finally in the boat.) which traverseth the heavens. I speak what I will to his Shau (Spirit-body). He is strong, and cometh into being even {as} he spake. Thou meetest him face to face. Prepare thou for me all the ways which are good {and which lead} to thee." Woohoo! We’re done.

iON 31:20
You’re gettin’ back to you; now you’ve juxtaposed your position back to you.

Carolyn 31:29
Wow, that was cool. Okay, now they have here a rubric to end it all. And, we talked about rubric before. So, kind of a synopsis, I think. "RUBRIC: If {these} words be recited by the spirit when he shall come to the Seven Arits, and as he entereth the doors, he shall neither be turned back nor repulsed before Osiris, and he shall be made to have his being among the blessed spirits, and to have dominion among the ancestral followers of Osiris. If these things be done for any spirit he shall have his being in that place like a lord of eternity in one body with Osiris, and at no place shall any being contend against him." So, basically, his position of power.

iON 32:31
Yes, and recognizing it.

Carolyn 32:34
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Awesome.

iON 32:37
Good, good, good. That’s a good cuttin’-out place, if you want to.

Carolyn 32:41
Okay, I don’t know if Bob’s ready. He’s still banging about. Bob, you know, he doesn’t listen. Because he doesn’t have the time.

iON 32:50
He don’t have to.

Carolyn 32:51
I know.

iON 32:52
Yeah, he can pick the points. So, open, he can, he can open it up and let the chileans howl about it.

Carolyn 33:00
Yeah, Bob, you, you’re on now. Thank you, iON.

iON 33:02
Wash them hands. Thank you, darlin’. Wash them hands.

Carolyn 33:07
Right. He’s done. Yeah. I totally appreciate being able to go through this with you, ION. Thank you.

iON 33:12
It’s wonderful. It’s wonderful. And now, see, we’re gonna come up to The Pylons of the House of Osiris. It’s a good jumping in and off place, so that’s good.

Carolyn 33:23
Awesome.

Bob 33:25
Okay, so we’re gonna open up. We’re gonna let people ask questions, right? That’s what we’re doing?

Carolyn 33:36
Yep.

Bob 33:37
Okay. So, I’ll unmute all and see.

Announcer 33:41
All participants are now unmuted.

Bob 33:45
Anybody want to ask? Let me mute the radio station. Okay, go ahead. Who was speaking? (pause) Anybody got any questions?

Carolyn 34:03
(in background) Bob, you’re very –

Bob 34:08
Oh, I’m muted.

Carolyn 34:10
Are you on your phone?

Bob 34:13
Yeah, something screwed up. I have to tell –

Carolyn 34:15
Like, I hear you speak and then a second later, comes over my phone. So, you’re in delay.

Bob 34:24
I’m on the other phone.

Carolyn 34:28
Why? Go back on the phone I’m on because it’s all –

Bob 34:37
Okay, so the problem is, is the none of my phones get recharged overnight. These things are dead for some reason. So, we have to look at that. Anyways, I got this one.

Carolyn 34:48
Okay, I’ll go on the other phone with you then.

Bob 34:53
I may be going on – I may be going on the headphones.

iON 34:55
Ha ha ha ha.

Bob 34:58
Tech Body screwed up the recharging. Okay, so, people can ask – I’ve muted people, muted the radio station, that other radio. I was muted. I even tried to come in as a host, Carolyn, but didn’t work right. Okay, who’d like to talk? Who, who wants to ask iON or comment on the Book of the Dead? We’re not doing private sessions yet. We’re doing the – you, you asking questions about the Book of the Dead, so, go ahead. (pause) None of you people were listening either. Right? Just between Carolyn and iON.

iON 35:39
Ha ha ha ha.

Bob 35:46
Well, someone’s gonna ask questions.

Jaun 35:49
Hey, Bob.

Bob 35:50
Come on, Nick. Michael.

Jaun 35:53
Can you hear me?

Bob 35:54
Who’s this?

Jaun 35:56
Juan.

Bob 35:56
Yeah, who is this? Okay, Juan, go ahead.

Jaun 36:03
Okay. Hi, iON. Can we talk about the bit where you say that you can replace yourself in the condition that you are? Um, is that when you just change your mind and don’t go with some less-than fault? And then (short pause) – help.

iON 36:31
Well, it’s kinda. Yeah, yeah, your words are a little weird. You got to shift that. So, is it what you thought you thought? So, I thought you thought? Is that what you’re saying?

Jaun 36:44
Yeah. If you have a thought that, is obviously, a less-than thought of you in a place that’s less than, and you said, –

iON 36:57
That you thought.

Jaun 36:58
Yeah. And it’s only just a thought, obviously, but then you can replace yourselves in the condition. See that’s – condition is something different, heh?

Bob 37:12
Are you talking about the Book of the Dead, Juan?

Jaun 37:15
Yes, Bob. It was only a short bit. I only got a few notes. Okay. Can I come back to that one?

iON 37:33
Sure.

Jaun 37:33
I’ll have to develop it a bit better.

iON 37:36
That’s good.

Jaun 37:34
The process of purif – the process of purification sounds a lot like in the ritual magic where you’ve got to purify –

iON 37:37
It does. It is ritual, but it’s not necessarily magic. It becomes normal. But, I guess if you’re dead, it might be considered magical.

Jaun 37:58
Okay. And, the purification. Is that when you’re dead? Or, –

iON 38:05
Yes.

Jaun 38:05
– ‘cuz I can remember where she said if you’ve got to be clean, or is that just – is that to do with your new lining up with you?

iON 38:18
Ah, recognizing you. Not lining up, recognizing you.

Jaun 38:27
Recognizing you. Okay, And that’s a purification.

iON 38:34
It would be.

Jaun 38:37
Brilliant. Okay, thank you. I’ll work on some more questions because this is so good.

iON 38:49
It’s good.

Jaun 38:49
I’m good for now.

Nikolas 38:56
Hi, iON.

iON 38:59
Hey.

Nikolas 39:00
In the – hi. In the Arits, there’s a Doorkeeper, a Watcher, and a Herald, and a Scribe Ani. They, they repeat in all of the Arits. What’s the significance of that?

iON 39:17
The four different marks are play in the interplay for conditions that you would see from yourself to yourself to yourself. The four sides. Four sides. You see, you got up down over and under. And that gives you those conditions from where you are from those places.

Nikolas 39:41
Okay, so, those markers. Do they then reference, if one reads through them again, does one – do they reference where you are particularly in, in that position?

iON 39:54
Maybe.

Nikolas 39:58
Maybe.

iON 40:01
Depends.

Nikolas 40:02
So, what would be a better way of looking at those four positions? If they’re juxtaposed, you would –

iON 40:08
North, south, east and west.

Nikolas 40:09
Ah, okay. So, would that be a reference point for where you’re positioned so you would know: are you facing north south, east or west? And which direction to move in?

iON 40:22
Basically. (pause, Carolyn and Bob in background) It’s so funny. We can still hear them and they don’t know it. It’s so funny. (Carolyn: ha ha ha). It’s fun.

Nikolas 40:40
Heh heh heh. Each one references: "and whose word is truth, shall say." So, each one of them repeats that same wordy words. Is this the truth?

iON 41:02
Or is it a fact?

Nikolas 41:04
Or, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

iON 41:06
Ha ha ha. Right. That’s the rub. Truth. That separates the difference between truth and facts, you see.

Nikolas 41:15
Okay, so does it deal with the little man ascending to become god, or does it not have any reference to that at all?

iON 41:24
That’s all it’s about. That’s all it’s about.

Nikolas 41:28
Hmm. Thank you, iON. I’ll have a look at my –

iON 41:40
You’re welcome. Play with it a little bit. But, you’re doing good.

Nikolas 41:44
Yeah. Thank you.

Carolyn 41:48
Thank you, iON. I yield back. I yield back.

iON 41:51
Yay.

Carolyn 41:52
I heard that about a million times in the impeachment hearings where congressmen will go after somethin’ or other, rraawrrraawrraaw, and then, I yield back.

iON 42:01
Right. Right. That’s right.

Carolyn 42:03
Where does that phrasing come from?

iON 42:07
Oh, it’s like cocaine. It’s where you draw the line.

Carolyn 42:10
Ha ha. Where you draw the line.

iON 42:15
It’s like crack. Make it a pipe dream.

Carolyn 42:17
Okay, Bob. Make it a pipe dream.

iON 42:21
It’s like acid, we’re dropping it.

Carolyn 42:23
Bob. Ha ha. We’re doing jokes, Bob, waiting for you to –

Nikolas 42:34
iON, in one of the riffs that I had, there was "the name of the giant was Hica." It’s got nothing to do with the Book of the Dead. Has it?

iON 42:42
Right. No, it doesn’t.

Nikolas 42:46
No. So, that gatekeeper referenced in that was nothing to do with these gatekeepers or Doorkeepers, should I say?

iON 42:53
Correct.

Nikolas 42:55
Thank you.

Scott 43:00
Is the, is the juxtaposition like the diagonals in a, in the cube? I mean, –

iON 43:12
It would. The reference would be the same. The reference would be the same. If you took that line and took a spirograph and drew pitched angles off of it, it would make a perfect star.

Scott 43:27
Right. So, it’s a star tetrahedron.

iON 43:30
Good. That’s good. Excellent. Damn, that’s well thought. You get an A for this moment. It’ll – it’s fleeting, though. It’s like South Dakota’s new anti-drug campaign: "Meth. We’re on it." (Scott and Nik laugh) No, it really is. It’s really their new campaign.

Bob 44:03
San Mateo.

iON 44:08
Amanana qu nan.

Carolyn 44:09
Bob’s asking.

iON 44:12
Well, he’s got to come to us.

Bob 44:13
San Mateo, want to speak? 650?

Lisa 44:20
Oh, hey, Bob. It’s Lisa.

Bob 44:24
Oh, okay. No, you’re not, not for the Egyptian Book of the Dead, so we’ll get back to you. Okay. All right. Now, maybe Brian wants to speak. You want to speak, Brian, about the Book of the Dead?

Brian 44:41
Ah, I’ve been listening to the Book of the Dead. However, a question does arise. Could one engage the "Stone Cold Dead" series? Is there, are there any parallels or is there –

iON 44:53
Yeah. They all are completely parallel. This just gives you the magic points at the magic markers that you’d use to scroll through the Book of the Dead. It, basically, is the other side. That’s very brilliant of you to pull that off. You did pretty good there, biggen, because what you’re saying is, is that this reference from the stone cold dead is how you pull them through; or the dead’s position or condition within the "Stone Cold Dead" series. Brilliant. The stone cold dead is from the little man coming from the dead place. And the Book of the Dead, is coming from the dead coming into an alive place.

Brian 45:41
So it’s a juxtaposed position.

iON 45:46
In a mirror that you’re pulling a tangent from. Because there’s degrees of aliveness and deadness as we know, right?

Brian 45:57
Yeah, yeah, you can say that.

iON 46:00
Well, and that’s why, and that’s why you have these four markers that you get to decide where you fall into it and how it works in the Arits to get you through those conditions. If that’s the stay in the cage in the rage of life. How far are you down the road tonight?

Brian 46:26
Pretty far.

iON 46:29
Good. Are you gonna make it tonight, or are you gonna show up in the morning?

Brian 46:34
Oh, hell no, I ain’t making it till Monday.

iON 46:38
Well, that’s good, you ____ that’s fine. That’s fun. We’re glad you’re here.

Brian 46:47
Yeah, it’s been it’s been a while. I mean, I call in from time to time, but normally I got stuff going on, or music, or, I don’t know. So, – but, I had the chance to get on, so I thought I’d say something. But, like I said, as I was listening I, I kept thinking about the "Stone Cold Dead" series and if one could get a straight parallel or another perspective which it would be.

iON 47:19
It is. It certainly is. See, you’re from, you’re, you’re some of the last of the good old school, if there was good old school, where you come from a different condition. You knew, you were involved when no one could know anything. Remember those days when nobody could get anything, nobody could –

Brian 47:37
Well, yeah. Ha ha ha. Right.

iON 47:36
– forever. It was like that. You couldn’t – the best you could get with nothingness. And now, all of a sudden the nothingness has become known and applial and applicable and conditioned and: "Oh yeah, this is what you do. Oh, hell, everybody knows that. What’s the fuck’s wrong with you? This is old school stuff," see? But, you’re tangento, tangential references bring it to a whole new light. Because you had to embrace the words back in the days of Thompson. Right?

Brian 48:16
Right. And, you’re using the tangent reference. But, I guess my question would be: if you found yourself in this position trying to get back –

iON 48:34
Yeah.

Brian 48:35
– one would use triangulation to navigate the world back.

iON 48:42
Yes. Or, or, and if you can’t do that, you’d look for a god to see what their pointin’ you to. It’s to find a god to help you back. See, they’re trying to say: pull on a god’s power if you’re dead. Those are the words. This is just the, the mark that you use to access those words, when the words apply, into the place of power to bring them back from the dead. That’s how the Book of the – coming forth in the rite of day, and light of night, and do right lollipop, and whatever the Book of the Dead shit, whatever they call it. To bring it back around so you have the ability to access the outcome; which is, to change your position from dead to live or live to dead.

Brian 49:39
Now, okay, so here’s another question because you keep bringing up these markers. So, and, Carolyn was talking about somebody creating or building their body. So, would you use markers as the DNA markers to –

iON 49:57
You could, you could.

Brian 49:56
– perfect physical –

iON 50:00
The skifts, the skifts, the skifts that come along with, like shifting your body because it doesn’t – like, let’s do your body. We used to play with your body all the time. You big, tall, drink of water. We can change you. You can go up and down and then you get the backache and you blow up. And then you get over that and it’d go down. And then your legs would blow up, and back and forth. You know what I’m saying, the normal condition of it, it’s your back and forth that you’re forcing yourself into. But, then all of a sudden your body responds in kind and you get all right. Notice that?

Brian 50:38
Yes. Yes, I do notice that.

iON 50:40
And that’s the point. That’s kind of the rite of passage and the point, because you’re able to reajust yourself, basically.

Brian 50:56
Well, okay. The problem is, is adjusting yourself or adjusting myself, at will, and knowing how to do it. It’s like, okay, I hear what you’re saying and I agree because I see it happening. I don’t how I’m doin’ it.

iON 51:15
You go too far.

Brian 51:15
Oh, okay.

iON 51:15
You go too far, you go too far, and you turn around and then you get good at it. So, then you can – you get messed up because you’re good at it. Then it’s like, okay, okay, okay, and then you do good at it. And then you’re like, okay, then you get messed up. Then you have the power to be messed up, so then you have the power to fix it. And then you get good for a while and you go too far. Then you get down in your back. And then you’re like: "Oh crap, I gotta do, I gotta get myself back together." And you do, and you do. And you basically you over-compensate the place that you’re describing. Meaning, your perfect self in way – how far you are away from that.

Bob 52:05
Okay, we’re stopping that part. That’s Brian’s personally – talk later about that. Okay, there’s other people here –

Michael 52:12
iON, is there a significance –

Bob 52:14
Okay, hold it.

Nikolas 52:14
– in number seven on the (indistinct).

iON 52:17
No, let’s use – yeah, let’s use that on Ruth. Let’s use that on, on – let’s, let’s use that on Ruth Buzzi. They got her now at the morticians. Got her workin’ on her. She’ll probably come out of the hospital next week.

Nikolas 52:45
Yeah, but the, the number seven, is that significant in any way?

iON 52:50
Yeah, we did. Let’s apply that one to Ruth Buzzi Ginsburg, because they got her down at the mortician’ gettin’ embalmed. And so we’re gonna see if she makes it out of that. She’ll probably be there until at least early part of the week, next week.

Nikolas 53:07
Gotcha. Thanks.

iON 53:10
She looks good for a dead bitch. (Nikolas laughs) Well, she looks better than Nasty Pelosi.

Nikolas 53:21
Nasty Pelosi, she’s not looking good, iON.

iON 53:25
Till her face fell off. They put it back on. It looks good. Okay, Bob says that’s enough, y’all had enough. It’s good. Any more questions, you can develop it as you go along. But this is a fun section where you’re gonna get some of that, where you’re gettin’ some of that blow by blows. You’ll develop those into positions –

Bob 53:46
Is this me?

iON 53:46
– and then you – Yes, that’s you. –

Bob 53:49
That me?

iON 53:49
-what do you what’d you – what’d –

Nikolas 53:50
It’s you, Bob.

iON 53:51
– you – mutin’ yourself, you’re mutin’ yourself now, Bob?

Bob 53:53
Okay, it’s all screwed up here. Anyways, shut up! Shut up! Okay, so we’re looking for new callers Do you – this one. Leon, do you have questions for the, on the Egyptian Book of the Dead? (pause) Put your hand up if you do. Okay. Do you have questions on the Book of the Dead?

iON 54:23
Put your hand up if you’re dead. Put the dead people on first. Let the dead people go first.

Bob 54:30
Yeah. Bert, do you have somethin’ to ask?

Bert 54:35
Yes. Yes, I do, Bob. Hey, iON –

Bob 54:38
Okay, go ahead.

iON 54:39
Hey. We’ve been waitin’ on you.

Bert 54:42
Hey, iON. Okay, I know. Hey, um, you were discussing with Carolyn, the Lord of Terror. And what the –

iON 54:54
Bob.

Bert 54:54
– jumped out for me – say again? Bob is the Lord of Terror?

iON 54:59
That’s Bob. Hell, yeah. –

Bert 55:01
Okay –

iON 55:02
– Screaming, shutin’ up, hollering at people, cursin’ them out, calling people nigger on the radio. You can’t do that. Ridiculous. Who does that? He does that. Yeah. He’s a pedophile and a necromancer and everything nasty. He’ll admit to it and don’t even know what it is. Ridiculous.

Bert 55:25
Okay, but what, what jumped out at me to ask a question is that normally, you know, those of us in this realm, we always reference the north and south. But his label is Chief of the Lands of the South and North. Is there a reason why the north and south are changed where south and north –

iON 55:49
The original, the original, it’s the original battle. The condition: the North versus the South. It’s what it’s always about on the inner side. Not the angel side. That’s from the eastern sky reference, you see. Everything goes east. You go west far enough, you hit far east. So, there’s only north, south and then east. West doesn’t matter.

Bert 56:16
Okay, you said the other side: the south and north.

iON 56:19
Yeah.

Bert 56:19
– Are you referencing the Civil War? Are you referencing the Civil War?

iON 56:23
That’s the reference that – those are points of order, but it applies the same way. A separation. North and south.

Bert 56:35
Okay, but you said that that’s the normal order on the other side. Are you still referencing, like, the other side of the Orion’s belt in this realm? Is that what you’re – that other side? Is that what you referencing?

iON 56:48
It does, it does. And The Book of the Dead references straight-out dead people. You know, dead people.

Bert 57:00
Right.

iON 57:01
You slept with dead people one time. Do you remember?

Bert 57:07
Okay, but I – no, I do not, iON. I do not.

iON 57:10
You don’t remember?

Bert 57:11
This whole dead thing, it’s –

iON 57:12
Want to talk about it? Want to talk about it?

Bert 57:13
No, I –

iON 57:13
(laughing)

Bert 57:17
– he’s gone. Let’s get back, iON. Let’s get back to the point.

iON 57:22
Oops, oops, there it is. Ha ha ha ha. No, okay. –

Bert 57:28
Go back to the point, iON. –

iON 57:29
– go back to the Egyptian Book of the Dead ‘cuz that’s what you’re supposed to do. That’s what you’re supposed to do. Okay, go ahead.

Bert 57:35
Okay, this dead thing. The dead people. So, this, this space between Orion’s belt and here, is that a –

iON 57:45
Yeah. Wait now. There’s no – whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. There’s no space between Orion’s belt and here. Those are touching. You’re talkin’ about which side of Orion’s Belt your on; the dead side or the live side. Then here, you’re on the dead side or the alive side. That’s what Brian – remember Brian Johnson? We adore Brian Johnson, too. –

Bert 58:09
Yeah, Brian just –

iON 58:10
– Brian Johnson, he’s talking about "The Stone – "The Stone Cold Dead" series, which is the other side of the ancient Book of the Dead. He was pretty good to bring that up because –

Bert 58:15
The other side.

iON 58:23
– yeah, yeah. Live to dead, dead to live. And then it doesn’s matter. Are you a god? Yes or no. If you are, then none of that appplies. But, if you’re not, you got to figure out which side you’re on.

Bert 58:40
Okay. Okay, this dead person thing. Okay. Do we consider them ghosts? Because you never referenced ghosts, you just mentioned that, you know, like I’m involving –

iON 58:53
Not necessarily. Not necessarily. There are ghosts, but not necessarily. Y’all got this tangled up with some Halloween thing, and it ain’t like that. It ain’t like that. Not as you presumed. You don’t get it. It’s okay. You’re figuring it out; but it ain’t like that, necessarily.

Bert 59:18
Necessarily. So, that’s not a definite, so are you saying that some people we see are dead and some people are ghosts?

iON 59:28
That’s correct. There’s a difference. That’s right. Earth-bound spirits they call some of them.

Bert 59:37
Right. And that, that references the stone cold dead. So, so the – okay, so like, you’re saying in the bus. You told me last week the bus – that some people that appear that they’re there but they’re not there. So, that – would that be a ghost –

iON 59:51
Right.

Bert 59:51
– that’s sitting on the bus that –

iON 59:52
It would. An app – we’ll call it – call it an apparition

Bert 59:57
Apparition.

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Bert 0:00
Okay, but, apparition, I would not engage as far as if they said something to me; but a dead person, I would.

iON 0:08
But you do. Yes, you do, you would, you could. You don’t know the difference. You can’t even see you! We say stuff about you, and you say –

Bert 0:17
I can’t even see me.

iON 0:17
– that’s not the case. Yeah, you don’t even know what you’re talkin’ about. You bump into the wrong stuff all the time. And act like you know somethin’. So, yeah, ain’t no difference. You gonna believe us or them lyin’ eyes of yours?

Bert 0:33
Well, I don’t believe my eyes since you brought up this dead thing. I definitely don’t believe my eyes. That’s why I’m asking you questions.

iON 0:38
Good. And so therefore, therefore, therefore, that brings you to the right place. Now you need to pull it back in and say: "Oh, okay, now there’s a notable difference." Now you can start noticing it. And that’s what we’re sayin’.

Bert 1:01
Okay, but are there points for noticeable difference because I’m using my eyes, but I shouldn’t trust my eyes, but I am seeing a person. So, are there clues –

iON 1:12
Yes, you’re seeing a form.

Bert 1:13
– you can get me to know that –

iON 1:15
Youre’ seeing a form.

Bert 1:16
A form, okay.

iON 1:17
You’re seeing a form.

Bert 1:18
Correct. But, you’re saying and notice, notice the difference between a ghost and a dead person. Can you give me a clue on how I would notice the difference?

iON 1:32
Well, what did the – we just went through that. What did the Book of the Dead say?

Bert 1:37
Okay, iON. I always have to go back and listen, okay, you just read. I can cover –

iON 1:44
Yeah, you’re gonna have to – darlin’, darlin’, darlin’. You’re gonna have to do that here too. Because what Carolyn did with the Arits, will give you the four positions to gauge where –

Bert 1:54
Yeah, I remember.

iON 1:55
– or what condition the person or thing you’re dealing with is. Seven different arenas in which to engage. And those are what you would use, the four sides, the four directions, to see which end of the, let’s say, of the spectrum of light they would engage.

Bert 2:19
Wow. Okay.

iON 2:21
See?

Bert 2:23
Hmm. Okay, iON –

iON 2:25
See, that’s why, why it’s good – whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. See why it’s good to be Number One? Do you realize you just unziped that, that nothing else did tonight? You see how you did that?

Bert 2:36
Yes.

iON 2:37
What about dat dough? What about dat dough?

Bert 2:40
Okay, yes.

iON 2:40
Nobody asked that question, but you did.

Bert 2:42
Okay, iON. All right, but let’s go back to that. Go back further to my original question. So, is there a reason for saying south to north? You’re saying it was another side, so, is that part of that spectrum? That, I mean, we all – in the live part, live realm –

iON 3:05
Depends, depends on if you’re alive or dead.

Bert 3:12
Depends on alive or dead. So, are you saying that a live person would reference north to south? And a dead person would be south to north?

iON 3:21
A dead person would be south to north, typically. –

Bert 3:24
Wow, okay.

iON 3:25
Typically. But you got to – see, remember the juxta – remember the juxtaposal positions? Sometimes –

Bert 3:32
Yes, they’re on the –

iON 3:34
– Some would say: "I once was dead, but now I’m alive." So, now which side are you on? You see?

Bert 3:46
Well, yeah, I see, I see as far as the words you’re saying, but I don’t really see.

iON 3:49
There’s a lot of people, there’s a lot of people that say: "I died and came back. And this is what it was like on the other side." Well, that’s the point. Is it the other side of the road, or did they live through the autopsy? You know, what happened?

Bert 4:07
Okay, but what I just unpacked that you answered, iON, that, that’s not a rod, it’s not a rods and cones. Is that our perspective? That’s something that – orientation? Is that an orientation? Not really using your mind, but your orientation of what you’re involved in?

iON 4:23
We like that. We like that. Just become more noted. You become what you become. As you become more sighted, you’ll notice things and then those rips, Arit, will allow you to sift through it to figure out what they are. Or, you can just ask ’em.

Bert 4:39
Ha ha ha. Okay, I want to go back to a question I asked you two, three, weeks ago about the lions and they’re coming. You said that the lions could be considered l-i-n-e-s.

iON 4:57
Yeah, between the lines.

Bert 4:58
Is that, is that a reference, is that reference to you’re, you always reference the lines and spaces that you made. Is that what you’re saying? Line? Does that reference –

iON 5:10
Every Good Boy Does Fine. And F-A-C-E. And then apply that to the pentatonic scale, 92 hertz.

Bert 5:23
Pentatonic scale is 92 hertz. Is that what you’re saying? So, the lines and spaces –

iON 5:28
No, we’re saying: get it down to 92 hertz.

Bert 5:32
Get it down to nine. Okay. So, the lines of spaces, that’s the frequency reference, then That’s not a –

iON 5:38
Yes. Everything is, big Bert.

Bert 5:46
I know I know, but I just wanted to be sure. Okay. Last week, you also said something to Carolyn about: You get to navigate the position between the two; the pitch and yaw of those degrees of exception. So, have the degrees of freedom changed to the –

iON 6:05
Good words. Those are great words. Where’d you get them?

Bert 6:10
From you, from your, from your voice last week.

iON 6:15
Oh, and then the good one, go with them. That’s good. That’s pretty good.

Bert 6:23
So, have the degrees of freedom changed? Are the degrees of freedom referenced differently in the Book of the Dead than what we’re familiar with, or there’s another reference?

iON 6:31
They’re the other side. They’re the antiphonal side. There’s the antiphonal side of it, just as it says. It’s the other side of it. This is the other version of it.

Bert 6:42
So, the degrees of exception are the other side of the degrees of freedom.

iON 6:48
Correct.

Bert 6:49
Yes.

iON 6:50
We call those the degree of bondage.

Bert 6:57
Ah, the degrees of exception could be considered degrees of bondage?

iON 7:01
Yep. From the Dark Soul’s perspective. But Bob really tears up. He does it with terror to the dead. He had no patience for the dead. But he loves to bury them. He’ll kill ’em dead as a sack of hammers: Mae Brussell, Chris Story, Ruth Buzzi Ginsburg, Marshall McLuhan, Mary McLuhan. Shit. All of the, the other goofball. Who is that one with the needles, the brother? He’s gone, too.

Bert 7:36
Who?

Bob 7:38
Yeah, Frank Zappa, Dr. Beter, Dave Worcester.

iON 7:40
Frank Zappa, Dr. Beter. Yes. Garrett Deane, Ralph Duby.

Bob 7:47
Garrett Deane, Ralph Duby, Krishnamurti. A lot happening in Janurary, February ’86.

iON 7:56
Michael Blake Read. Michael Blake Read.

Bob 7:58
Michael Blake Read.

Bert 8:02
Yes.

Bob 8:02
Yeah. January, February ’86: Krishnamurti, L. Ron Hubbard, Herbert W. Armstrong and someone else.

Bert 8:10
All on the same day? Wow.

iON 8:14
It was a good day in –

Bob 8:16
Oh, no, but every week and a half –

Bert 8:17
Just till February.

iON 8:18
– thru January, February ’86.

Bert 8:20
Really.

Bob 8:21
February, January ’86. L. Ron Hubbard –

iON 8:25
How many days to Blooms Day? How many days to Blooms Day?

Bob 8:29
163. 163. 165.

iON 8:32
Ha ha ha ha. Listen, you. You know somethin’. Ha ha ha ha.

Bob 8:40
I know somethin’, Bert.

Bert 8:43
Yes, you do, Bob. Yes you do.

Bob 8:45
My Tech, my Tech Body smartphone keeps track of that stuff.

iON 8:49
Do you understand how Bert just fucked around and unlocked the Book of the Dead from tonight’s boring epoch?

Bob 9:01
Did you say from tonight’s boring epochs? What did you just say?

iON 9:04
Yes, we did. Yeah.

Bob 9:09
He said Bert unlocked the Book.

iON 9:10
And that (indistinct) boring. He unlocked the session. –

Bob 9:13
Oh, you hear that, Carolyn?

iON 9:14
– he knocked, he knocked it out of the park.

Bob 9:17
Ah, okay. Did you hear that, Carolyn?

Carolyn 9:22
(in background) Yes.

Bob 9:23
You were boring tonight. We’re going to have to have a committee review of Carolyn’s hosting.

iON 9:29
No, no, there wasn’t a lot going on. It was just going through the perfunctory stages that you have to do. But, no one got the mark to hit the ball out of the park of what you were pitching. It was just – we were playing catch. And he gets up and takes it to bat and hits it out of the park.

Bob 9:52
Yes, I get that. And Carolyn is a great soul for going through the boring part. I wouldn’t have done it. I would have cancelled the session.

iON 9:59
She’s wonderful. She’s wonderful. We know, but you didn’t. And she, then she went and bought you a damn treat in the interim that you ate every single one of.

Bob 10:08
Yes, that’s right. Hey Bert, the Tech Body is really messing with our phones here. They said this didn’t get charged. You know, you didn’t do it overnight. And, ah, so, we’re trying to figure out what phone I could use. Like, pretty chaotic. And then, then all of a sudden the phone starts saying: charging, charging. So, Tech Body backed off and now they’re charging. So, that is interesting what iON described as the Tech Body –

iON 10:39
Oh, that’s wonderful. Tell them about, tell them about ice cream, Bob; that’s a nice topic. Are we through with the dead? Are we done with the dead shit, yet, Bob?

Bob 10:47
No.

Bert 10:48
One more question, iON.

iON 10:50
Come on. Get with it now, get with it. Get right with God.

Bert 10:54
Okay. Okay, iON last week you, you also said you better know what an antigen is.

iON 11:01
Yeah, better know.

Bert 11:06
So, um, is this related to your CRISPR subject you brought up a few weeks ago?

iON 11:11
Ah, not, it can, but not necessarily.

Bert 11:17
Okay, so, is there a new process with antigens that was brought up in the Book of the Dead last week?

iON 11:25
Tell them what an antigen is. They don’t know.

Bert 11:28
Okay. It’s a substance that can be foreign to the body that invokes an immune response, –

iON 11:34
Exactly.

Bert 11:34
– either alone, forming a complex –

iON 11:40
Go ahead. Alone or effects a –

Bert 11:43
Okay (indistinct) – after forming with a

iON 11:44
Don’t stop, you’re doing good.

Bert 11:46
Okay. Antigen is any substance foreign to the body that invokes an immune response, either alone or after forming a complex with a large molecule and that is capable of binding with the product of the immune response. And my question is, has something changed –

iON 12:07
Not immune, an immunoresponse, because it doesn’t have to be in an immune response. An immunoresponse, like a knee jerk reaction or a reflex. So, don’t negate that. But yes, that’s exactly correct. Okay? And that’s what you better know. And you told them, so now they know. Okay, next. Ready to go to the beach? How about ice cream? Ready for ice cream? Hmm.

Bert 12:35
Okay. Okay. Has something changed? Are you just bringing that up because of a certain portion? I didn’t –

iON 12:42
No.

Bert 12:43
Nothing has changed.

iON 12:44
You got it. You got it. That’s why you’re Number One.

Bert 12:50
Okay, but I’m not getting what I got. I mean, you just reference that but there’s nothing -so, nothing has changed with the antigen in relation to antigens. You just –

iON 12:59
No, but you have to know it. Now you have to-

Bert 13:00
– wanted to remind everyone –

iON 13:01
– no, no, no, no, no. Now you’re to a place that that matters. Before, we didn’t care if you knew it or not. You didn’t necessarily need to know it because it didn’t make any difference. Now you need to know what it is because it makes a difference now. You see?

Bert 13:22
Okay, one more question. I have another question on the Book of the Dead. Okay. What you’re laying out with the dealing with the dead in the Book of the Dead, is it different from the Lazarus project?

iON 13:34
No.

Bert 13:37
So, they’re both the same. So, what’s going on, what you’re laying out in the Book of the Dead and Lazarus, they’re the same.

iON 13:45
Right, they are the same.

Bert 13:46
Yes, okay.

iON 13:48
Yes.

Bert 13:48
All right.

iON 13:49
Yes, they are the same.

Bert 13:50
That’s all I have for the Book of the Dead, Bob. Thanks.

Bob 13:56
That was good point, Bert.

iON 13:59
It’s good to be Number One.

Bob 14:01
Do Ginney and Greg want to say anything? Do you have any points in the Book of the Dead? Were you here to hear it?

Multiple voices 14:11
Hi, Bob. Hi, iON.

Bob 14:17
The Book of the Dead.

iON 14:19
He’s here, he’s here.

Bob 14:21
What? (indistinct) to hear The Book of the –

Greg 14:27
Naw, I don’t have much response on the Book of the Dead, but we’re just enjoying listenin’ to the sound of words here.

iON 14:36
The sound of words. The sound of silence. We heard it, we just didn’t –

Bob 14:40
Did you ever hear for a while before you phoned in?

Greg 14:44
Yeah, we were on the computer. We were just near a noisy spot. So, we were listening to it without being –

Bob 14:51
Okay. So, you have no points to make about the Book?

Greg 14:56
No, I don’t have any points to make, but thanks for jumping on me.

Bob 15:01
I’ll come back to you.

iON 15:02
Of course, of course.

Bob 15:04
Yeah. So now Brian, have you thought of something about the Book of the Dead since the we muted you?

Brian 15:13
Sure. It’s not specifically about the Book of the Dead, but it’s, it’s the interaction of the living entering into those realms or that realm. I think of – it may not be the same but I think of purgatory. There was a show on Fox called "Sleepy Hollow." And it was about Moloch, but it was about purgatory. And Moloch took this girl’s sister to purgatory, so there’s that hurt. So this girl and this guy, the main character, they go into the land of the dead to get her, to retrieve her, to get her back. But when they get there, they get all turned around and they’re lost. Which is exactly what I hear him saying: "Hey, if you get lost, this is what you got to do to figure out how to get out." So, I’m asking about the interaction, if the living go there –

iON 16:09
Right.

Brian 16:09
– and, so you don’t necessarily have to be dead, but you could be alive and go there, and you better have these tools or knowledge to navigate your way around. I mean, that’s my question.

iON 16:21
If you get lost, yes. If you get lost, that’s exactly right. Now, what Bert was talking about was how to navigate it with fear with the dead people that are here. That’s what Burt was asking about. So, your, your condition is exactly the opposite of it. Of, is when you go there to go fetch somebody or sometimes Bob gets out whoring. You know, he’ll go whoring pretty regular. And he’ll get lost off in there and then a bad world and nobody -he don’t even care where he is. He just waller’s out wherever he is, you know? He don’t care. So, sometimes even we have to go fetch him, get him and bring him back. Now, he can’t remember it; but ohh, all of a sudden, ooo, he’s havin’ dreams. Oh, oh, Uncle Percy come quick, he’s havin’ dreams. Mysteries from the Universe Bob’s having now, you see?

Brian 17:18
Bob, what kind of dreams are you havin’? Ha ha.

iON 17:21
Tell us, Tell us, Bob. Tell them, Bob. Go ahead tell it. Tell it, Bob. Tell it.

Bob 17:28
Gratifications from my Pornhub channel.

iON 17:31
Yeah, he does have a nice Pornhub channel, that’s true. He went premium, you know, just last week.

Bob 17:36
The actresses, the actresses on the Pornhub channel wanna have a real relationship with me off the set, so they enter my dreams.

iON 17:45
Oh, me. Yeah, oh, okay. But he charges them though, don’t you worry.

Bob 17:50
But I just flash them my finger which has no married ring on it. I show them the finger. Very ambiguous gesture.

iON 17:58
Ah, oh. And he accepts tips on Paypal.

Bob 18:02
Oh, I accept tips, yes. Does that answer your question, Brian?

Brian 18:10
Yeah, sure. As far as your dreams, yeah, that answered my question.

Bob 18:14
Yeah, sure.

Brian 18:15
Your dream. The other thing was now, so, we’re gettin’ this – as you’re going through The Book of the Dead, it’s this – I don’t know, call it a navigation system or whatever to –

iON 18:30
It’s an information guide. It’s an information guide.

Brian 18:34
Okay.

iON 18:35
Both sides of it are the four directions that you might bump into. You know that dude you always see at the Flying J? You know, when you go to the Flying J?

Brian 18:47
Yes.

iON 18:49
The dude you always see that’s kind of weird and you don’t know what about him, he’s like, he’s always there? But guess what? He’s always there. Know what that means? He’s dead there. He don’t go nowhere. He’s always there. No matter when you go. He’s there.

Brian 19:06
Oh, that’s interesting.

iON 19:12
Yeah, and that’s why no matter when you’re there, it’s odd.

Brian 19:13
It’s not just the Flying J, I see him everywhere at these truck stops. Like, damn, is this guy stalkin’ me? Is he followin’ me around? What the hell’s going on?

iON 19:22
Yeah (indistinct).

Brian 19:24
Okay, so, Jesus, it said, you know, Jesus conquered death, hell and the grave. Is that conquering of this what – what did you just call the Book of the Dead? I called it the navigation system. It’s a, what did you just say it was?

iON 19:50
It’s the guide. It’s the guide.

Brian 19:52
Guide. Okay, so, so, would Jesus have a guide or a blueprint when he went and he conquered death, hell and the grave, would he have a blueprint or something similar? Or, did he just use the same guide?

iON 20:05
He did.

Brian 20:06
Okay, which is it?

iON 20:07
No, no, no. Stop. One second. The scriptures were very clear. What it said was, is that Jesus went, died, and he went to hell or to purgatory. And with him he took the KEYS to death, hell and the grave. Those Keys are what he used to unlock purgatory. And he did. So, those things you’re talking about are the Keys.

Brian 20:40
Okay, those Keys that he used – okay, are those Keys in the Book of the Dead, or are they, are they a different –

iON 20:47
They’re the angel’s Keys.

Brian 20:47
– different – oh, so he used angelic Keys, and the Book of the Dead doesn’t do that. Is this correct?

iON 20:57
Correct. Well, you can use them and they respond, but you’re not talkin’ to the angels in the Book of the Dead, you’re talkin’ to the dead. Or, if you’re dead, you have to get out of your dead spot.

Brian 21:15
Right. If you’re dead, but I’m, my perspective is from the living; being alive and entering that realm –

iON 21:25
No, we know. Everything works, everything’s good, it’s beautiful, you win, no problem. That’s not the conversation. But, you got a cell phone that you use and sometimes you hit "a dead spot" and you got no service. Or, if you have service, it disconnects because you hit "a dead spot." But now, you got to know how to navigate outside of the "dead spot," because your GPS won’t even get you out of that if you are. You see? And that’s an example of what The Book of the Dead can help if you get stuck in a "dead spot," a zone. ‘Cuz that’s why we say we use it, the reference, as a guide. Now, they’re sayin’ all this hibably, gibably, bibably, dibably, bubbly gook. Don’t get worried about all that. But, you don’t get tangled up in that. Some people do. But you don’t get tangled up in all that. You wouldn’t know Horus’ asshole from Isis’ virginal mouth. You wouldn’t know no difference. So, don’t make a difference to you. But, the points of order allow you to note the deference between the dead’s perspective that they’re trying to come out of, and the live’s perspective that you would use to engage the dead at that level. So, it tells you both sides of it.

Brian 22:51
Okay, all right. That’s good.

iON 22:53
That is good. You’re going good.

Bob 22:58
Okay, thank you, Brian. Thank you for your private session.

iON 23:03
We fucks. We fucks with you, Brian.

Bob 23:08
Yeah. Okay. Bisbee. You have anything to say? You come in every week and say nothing. You have something to say this week about the Book of the Dead? (pause)

iON 23:27
I think they’re through with all the dead shit, Bob. (indistinct)

Bob 23:29
Not going to say anything?

iON 23:36
Oh, yeah, lord god, let him talk. It’s okay.

Bob 23:41
Now Juan, do you have another question about it?

Jaun 23:52
I’ll have to prepare, so, sorry, Bob.

iON 23:55
Yeah. You say that they’re dead. What the fuck difference does it make?

Bob 24:03
Okay, so we got Michael and Nik. Do you have something to say? Either of you?

Michael 24:08
Yeah. iON, is the emptying of the guf now filling our experience here with, with the dead, the recently undead, undead –

iON 24:18
Yes, it is. It’s filling up all of the subways and the "L’s" and the graveyards and they’re having to put fences around the cemeteries. You know why?

Michael 24:32
To keep them in or to keep us out.

iON 24:35
No, because people are dying to get in there.

Michael 24:38
Ah. So, are the dead bringing their veil with them, iON?

iON 24:50
You got to say it in English.

Michael 24:55
There used to be a veil between the dead and the living before we did The Book of the Dead.

iON 24:59
There still is. There still is. But now you got the insight of knowing the distance. And if you ever learn how to deal with the Dark Soul, then you’ll be better prepared and able to – with the fiery darts that the Dark Soul will throw at you, –

Michael 25:18
Yeah.

iON 25:18
– that’s Bob, those fiery darts, you’ll know how to overcome those. See, Bert’s doing real good with it, and Brian’s doing good with it. Several of them are doing good. Alissa’s got pretty words. You’re doing good.

Michael 25:35
Yeah.

iON 25:36
You have water now. So, that’s good, isn’t it?

Michael 25:39
It’s very good. It’s very good. So, the – is it the dead entering the space of the living more than the living entering –

iON 25:51
What’s the difference? What’s the difference?

Michael 25:55
The difference is that –

iON 25:56
How would you know?

Michael 25:56
– the difference is that you used to be in the guf, and now you are here. And so, are you, are you in some way the king of the dead bringing the dead over here?

iON 26:10
No, we are non physical, see?

Michael 26:12
Yeah, I know.

iON 26:13
Well, you suggest these – well, you know that but then you ask us questions. Look, you got one stock pot now. You used to have separate pots. Now you got one stock pot where everything fits. And here’s the thing. Now, here we come; here we come to save the day. Hey, hey we’re the monkeys, people say we monkey around. And then you got this Tech Body where you pumped all your power into that we’re 8/11th of. Kinda like Southern Company: all the holding, all the common stock for all the power companies. You know, Georgia Power, Alabama Power, Mississippi Power and Light. All them companies, see? They hold all those common shares. So, it keeps pumping it out, pumping and pumping and pumping and pumping it up to the point where you give it so much power, that you increase our power to the point where we don’t care if you ascend or not! Ha ha ha ha. Don’t both us. Ascend, don’t ascend, fuck it, don’t fuck it, get it, don’t get it. Hey, biggen, do what you’re gonna do. You don’t scare us, do what you want to. Because the humans in this condition are pumping so much power into the Tech Body that you’re increasing non physical. Livin’ in a box, in a cardboard box. Livin’ in a box.

Michael 27:33
How are they, how are the dead relating to the Tech Body, iON?

iON 27:38
They’re lovin’ it. They get to be heard. They get to see and be seen. The dead do more in their dead space than most humans do sitting on their sofa, on their little lookie box, pumping in their little thing on the twittin on their twatter, and lovin’ up the Facialbook and takin’ pictures of the food they have been layin’ in front of them. They don’t go to the kitchen to get food no more. They just waller and let somebody lay some food on them. And they take a picture of it and they let it wash down their throat hole, and they’re on the way to the abyss.

Michael 28:14
Is the Tech Body aware of whether we are dead or alive?

iON 28:19
Yes.

Michael 28:22
And it, does it interact with us differently according to –

iON 28:30
No, no. But see, dead people have been votin’ in Chicago for years. So, it’s not too odd. They’re used to dealing with dead people.

Michael 28:41
So, is Schiff one of the recently undead?

iON 28:46
No, he’s alive, but he’s like a little pixie doll. You know, when you squeeze ’em and the eyes bug out? They go bleah, it’s like them.

Michael 28:56
Yeah. Yeah. All right. That’s good. Thank you, iON. Thank you, Bob.

Bob 29:05
Okay, thank you, Michael. Okay, next person. Trina, do you have a question on the Book of the Dead?

iON 29:12
That was, that was, that was pretty good. That was pretty good.

Bob 29:17
Yeah, that was good.

Trina 29:18
Hi, Bob.

iON 29:19
You’re milking it. You’re milking it.

Trina 29:21
I don’t have any questions on the Book of the Dead.

Bob 29:25
Hello Trina.

iON 29:25
Okay. Hey, darlin’.

Trina 29:26
Can you hear me?

Bob 29:27
So, your questions, you said, you typed –

Trina 29:31
I don’t have any questions.

Bob 29:31
– "Jesus unlocked purgatory with the Keys." What’s that statement? "Jesus unlocked purgatory with the Keys," you typed.

Trina 29:38
That was what iON said.

Bob 29:40
Do you want to ask a question about that?

Trina 29:43
iON mentioned that, so I wrote that down. Can you not hear me?

Bob 29:50
Yeah, he mentioned tonight. I hear you. He mentioned it tonight?

Trina 29:53
I thought that was a great – yeah, I liked that. So, I typed that on there.

iON 29:54
Oh, isn’t that nice?

Trina 29:58
Even Brian asked about the Keys. So, that was the Keys and the Aethyrs. And he took that to purgatory and I’m not that. Yeah, I’m just throwing that out.

Bob 30:10
Right. Okay –

Trina 30:12
At the beginning of The Book of the Dead. Let me ask you, I do have a question. It’s what Carolyn was reading. It made it sound, you guys said that you have to die and then come back and reclaim your body?

iON 30:26
Yeah, that’s what they’re doing, or trying to do.

Trina 30:32
In The Book of the Dead.

Bob 30:33
They’re not reincarnating. You might want to spell out the difference, iON.

iON 30:38
They’re not, they’re not They – the only reason why –

Bob 30:41
You’re afrad of the reincarnation topic. Yeah, you’re afraid of the reincarnation topic, right?

iON 30:45
We don’t care. There isn’t any. We’re not afraid of it. There’s not any – there isn’t any. You know, it’s like good baloney. There’s no such thing. So, can’t describe – you can’t go against baloney. There ain’t any. You eat baloney or you don’t. But it’s not ‘cuz it’s good, it’s just because it’s baloney.

Trina 30:54
So, the dead are trying to come back, but they’re dead. So, they don’t get to come back.

iON 31:09
Yeah, they’re baloney. They’re baloney.

Bob 31:13
Ha ha ha. Is Deborah Durbin trying to come back, iON? Or Eliza?

iON 31:18
No, no. They can’t.

Bob 31:21
Why not? Why can’t they?

iON 31:23
They haven’t figured it out yet. We haven’t done The Book – we haven’t done The Book of the Dead yet.

Bob 31:30
Heh heh. So there, so there are not many people before we start doing The Book of the Dead that came back.

iON 31:39
Jesus, they’re everywhere Bob. They’re all over the place. So, you don’t even go – you kill all these motherfuckers that you want to go to their funeral –

Bob 31:46
So, some have figured it out. You’re saying some have figured it out.

iON 31:49
Yeah, some, but not many.

Bob 31:50
I know, but you you’re saying some have figured it out over the millennia, over the span of timing. And they’re here, bugging Bert and others. And me.

iON 32:01
Day after, the day after tomorrow.

Bob 32:03
They do figure it out.

iON 32:05
They do. The day after tomorrow.

Bob 32:07
Okay, go ahead, Trina.

Trina 32:08
But they’re, but they’re not in physical bodies. They’re just creating havoc because there’s no guf. They’re all, they’re just dead people all over that you can’t see.

iON 32:16
It’s not, it’s not necessarily havoc. Y’all see it as havoc, but now you’ve got so lost in your Tech Body, they’re all over you and you don’t even care. It’s like, yeah do it. I’m dead. Okay. (Bob laughs) Congratulations. Well, if you’re dead, then why are you in my Facialbook account? Well, you (indistinct) that. I "liked" you on Facebook. Okay, you gave me a "like." I "liked" you, I don’t care what you are. Yeah, you gave me a "like"? Okay, we’re good. (Bob laughs) Don’t be putting that shit – I’m gonna, I’m gonna "unfriend" you. Don’t be putting that shit on my thing. I’m gonna "unfriend" you.

Trina 32:52
And after The Book, after we complete The Book of the Dead they can come back into their physical form? Debra; my father’s asking. When you completed The Book of the Dead.

Bob 33:07
Answer that. Wait, wait. Make him answer it. So, Deborah can come back, and Eliza, after we finish The Book of the Dead, iON?

iON 33:16
If they want to. They won’t, though.

Trina 33:18
If they want to. They won’t. Okay.

iON 33:21
They won’t.

Trina 33:24
And what will we –

Bob 33:26
Why? Because – heh heh – what will we? What will we? What’s the verb?

Trina 33:32
What will we gain by, by, at the end of The Book of the Dead? What we do with –

iON 33:39
What we know?

Trina 33:39
– this knowledge. What’ll we know, yes.

Bob 33:43
Yeah, what will we know?

iON 33:46
Oh, you’ll know how to go. If you want to go get somebody, you can go get somebody from the land of the dead, if you want to.

Trina 33:56
Okay.

iON 33:56
Gotta go quick, though.

Bob 33:58
And we can bring them back into the physical, iON?

iON 34:01
Mm hmm. Yep.

Bob 34:08
Well, when JW, before iON showed up, but maybe iON was around in the late 2008, early 2009, all these ghosts, or apparently ghosts, were in his home. Were they dead people coming back, or ghosts are different phenomenon?

iON 34:27
There were a lot of dead folks rambling around, yes. Still are. Opening doors, tripping alarms, you know.

Bob 34:34
So, why was JW able to see them?

iON 34:39
He didn’t have a bias.

Bob 34:40
Why did he start to see them?

iON 34:43
He didn’t have a bias against them.

Bob 34:45
And you were impressing on him? You were impressing on him gettin’ ready to speak around him? So, that was his (overtalk) response?

iON 34:52
He really didn’t have a, he really didn’t want a – he really didn’t have a bias about it, you see. For real. That’s the main difference.

Bob 35:01
So, what were they? Were they dead? Or, were they ghosts, or what? What were they?

iON 35:07
Some of both. Some of both.

Bob 35:11
Okay, all right. But it had nothing to do with iON creeping around us. You, creeping around us, getting ready for March 18, 2009?

iON 35:23
Well, umm. Maybe. Maybe.

Bob 35:28
Maybe. See, that’s deeper knowledge, deeper symptoms there, Trina. Right? I’ll work on that privately, see what I come up with. Or, you could try. Maybe if you asked the questions something would happen.

Carolyn 35:44
Okay, I’ll work on that and see if I have more questions later.

iON 35:48
Yay.

Bob 35:48
Yeah, you don’t want to do it right now. You’re scared. You’re scared.

Trina 35:52
Ha ha ha. Scared of the dead.

Bob 35:53
Ha ha ha. Scared of new knowledge. Okay, thank you very much, Trina. Have you finished The Book of the Dead questioning?

Carolyn 36:03
I am. Yeah, I’m done with that, –

Bob 36:05
What?

Trina 36:06
– and I’ll be happy to –

Bob 36:07
Okay,

Trina 36:07
I’m done with The Book of the Dead.

Bob 36:11
All right, good. And then we got an unknown (music plays) speak? No, that’s the Android the old Android Meme still tryin’ to get (overtalk) Okay, Leon –

Michael 36:24
Bob, are you going to ask, are you going to ask Alissa’s question?

Bob 36:31
You can go ahead. Go ahead.

Michael 36:33
Alissa had a question. Are the four directions or side, the F, A, C, E, are the seven arenas the E, G, B, D, F, iON? (pause)

Bob 36:57
Did I mute –

iON 36:58
Is that to us, Bob? Is that to us, Bob?

Bob 37:02
Yeah, that’s to you. Ask it – yes, that’s right. Did you maybe want to do it again Michael, more forceful.

Michael 37:07
Let me ask it again. This is a question from Alissa, and she wants to know: are the four directions or side the F, A, C, E, face? Are the seven arenas the E, G, B, D, F, iON?

iON 37:26
Every good boy does fine. It’s fine for the lions.

Bob 37:30
Every good boy does fine and then you said something about alliance. Or, that’s what I heard.

Michael 37:40
For the lions.

Bob 37:44
Oh, for the lines every, every good boy. So, what was it Michael? Let’s get it straight.

Michael 37:52
It sounded like iON said: Every good boy does fine for the lions. Which may be the lions of –

Bob 38:03
Is that what you said, iON? Is that what you said, iON?

iON 38:10
Yes.

Bob 38:16
Mike, are they lions, l-i-o-n-s, or l-i-n-e-s? What’s the (overtalk) ?

Michael 38:22
That’s what I was wondering. Exactly what I was wondering. Bert, Bert seems to think it’s –

Bob 38:29
So, ask iON.

Michael 38:30
– Bert, is – is it the lines or the lions, iON?

iON 38:36
Lines.

Michael 38:38
L-i-n-e-s, Bert.

Bob 38:44
Okay, –

Michael 38:44
Well um, –

Bob 38:45
– so, so there was never – he was talking many weeks ago. It sounded like he was talking about lions. You didn’t mean two lions, iON? Two animals?

iON 38:46
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, –

Bob 38:56
They’re on the river or something.

iON 38:57
– Lions and lines are the same thing. Lion, the Lion of Judah is a line that they had to cross over.

Bob 39:11
Okay. All right. Is that it, Michael? Okay, we got that. Thank you. I’ll get back to you. Scott, did you have another question about Book of the Dead? (pause) Did you have a question Nik? (pause) Scott and Nik. (pause) And this is you Michael –

Scott 39:42
I was laying down. All right, one question. I don’t know if he wants to answer this, but I was reading in Ezekiel, and there’s a – I think it’s chapter 31 which is about the trees and the, and the roots in the, and the groundwaters and all that kind of stuff. That sort of sounded like it was a similar kind of juxtaposition. Does that, does that whole chapter in Ezekiel have to do with the living and the dead?

iON 40:20
Not, no. It’s the, that’s the landscape. Ezekiel deals with the landscape. That’d be the Thompson quadrant.

Scott 40:31
Okay, thanks.

Bob 40:32
The landscape is the Thompson quadrant.

iON 40:35
In Ezekiel, not live or dead.

Bob 40:37
The landscape is the Thompson quadrant, iON.

iON 40:40
Yes.

Bob 40:41
Yeah, the landscape, whatever that is, is the – what Ezekiel deals with. That’s the Thompson quadrant. Correct?

iON 40:49
Yeah. Correct. That’s correct.

Scott 40:50
It’s a very picturesque, it’s a very picturesque description. It’s kind of beautiful in some ways because it describes the cedars – so

iON 41:04
So is Thompson. So is Thompson till it fucks you up.

Bob 41:12
Well, what is the landscape? Thompson quadrant is the Astral Body, iON. So, what, what is Ezekiel seeing the astral plane or other?

iON 41:19
Yes. That’s exactly what he’s describing. That’s what he’s describing is the difference between the live and the dead. And his question is right on marks or comparison, but it’s not about live people and dead people. It’s about where live people and dead people play, which is the astral projection that’s done in Thompson. Come on, Bob, it’s your quadrants. You got to stay up.

Scott 41:42
Okay.

Bob 41:43
So, isn’t that what Carolyn is delineating in the Book of the Dead?

iON 41:48
Yeah. Yeah, bringing a Yeti near you.

Bob 41:52
So we get – what?

iON 41:56
Bringing a Yeti near you.

Bob 41:58
What’d you say?

Michael 42:00
Bringing the Yeti near you.

Bob 42:02
Yeti near me. That’s from the Church of of the Subgenius. That’s from the Church of the Subgenius, Carolyn. The Yetis. (To Carolyn in the background) You got a question, unmute yourself.

iON 42:12
AHHHHH, don’t say nothin’ about it yet. Don’t you say nothing about it yet.

Bob 42:16
Yeah, that’s right. Yeah, that’s right. –

Michael 42:18
iON, the position –

Bob 42:18
– Go ahead, Carolyn.

Carolyn 42:19
(in background) iON, iON, iON, iON.

Bob 42:22
– Oh, I have to unmute you. Go ahead.

Carolyn 42:23
Does the environment, does the landscape interchange with the environment and the AL2SO4?

iON 42:35
Yeah, but it hasn’t yet –

Carolyn 42:36
AHHH. AHHH.

iON 42:37
– but it will. It hasn’t yet. Screaming, Bob. She’s a caw. She’s crowing. It’s a caw.

Carolyn 42:48
I’m sitting here with pizza dripping off my hands. Ha ha. I can’t react properly. Now, that’s big, Bob.

Bob 42:57
You got your answer. What is it?

Carolyn 43:00
The landscape, Thompson’s landscape that Scott’s bringing up about Ezekiel, that harkens back to our discussions about the environment is changing, we’re changing the environment and we’re making the new AL2SO4 environmental chemistry.

Bob 43:20
Ah, that will be in the –

iON 43:21
Which is not about, which is not about alive or dead. It’s where live and dead will be effected.

Bob 43:30
Right. This is the discussion we did on Pele in Maui which we’re gonna play hours from now. Correct, iON? About our interaction with Pele.

iON 43:42
That’s correct. That’s correct. That’s correct, Bob.

Bob 43:50
Okay, thank you, iON. Thank you. All right. Thanks Carolyn. So, Michael, and Nik. Michael, Nik, have a question?

Nikolas 44:02
I’ve got a question, Bob. It’s Nik. iON, those markers, those positions north, south, east west and then juxtaposed. Is there duality in this world and in other worlds? Is that what we’re referencing here?

iON 44:14
By reference of by virtue of hendiadys, of course.

Nikolas 44:20
Yes. Thank you. Thanks, Bob.

Bob 44:24
Okay, all right. Thanks, Nik. Leon, you got a question? You got your hand up. (pause) Go ahead, Leon.

iON 44:37
(imitates the theme from Bonanza.)

Bob 44:39
We’re not really hearing you. We’re seeing the vibration, –

Leon 44:43
Hello there.

Bob 44:43
– but it’s not coming. Yeah, okay. Go ahead. I hear you.

Leon 44:48
Am I, am I clear though, Bob?

Bob 44:50
Shut up iON! Leon’s – yeah, you’re clear. Excellent.

Leon 44:54
Okay. Sorry, I’m at the film, "Joker," out there. The movie, what they call it? Gods, "Gods of Egypt." –

iON 45:07
Yes.

Bob 45:09
Yeah.

Leon 45:11
There was a technology which Horus used or he caused when one, when he wanted to – what was it? help one of, I guess, the little man love or love of his life entered the realm of the dead. But, I also noticed that you said technology to bring people from the dead to alive and alive to the dead. Is that referenced within this book? Or has –

iON 45:42
It is. It does, of course.

Leon 45:45
Now is that more of a, like a, is that the Key? Or, could that be a Key which you summon or what is that actually, that creature –

iON 45:57
Not a Key.

Leon 45:57
– or technology?

iON 46:00
Not the Tech Body.

Leon 46:10
Now was that creature – was it a creature or was it a god or was it a technology?

iON 46:17
Yes, it was all of them.

Leon 46:20
All of the above. Okay. All right, another question.

Bob 46:25
That’s McLuhanesque, that’s McLuhanesque, Leon. Animals. McLuhan called media the new animals; and all the gods and all the, yeah, gods in history, Greek myths, were technologies. Were inventors. So that, those three apply in McLuhan knowledge. Those three words are equal. Yeah, go ahead.

Leon 46:53
Is there, ah, what was it. Um. Every –

iON 46:57
No.

Leon 46:58
– creature of the – okay. So, the gods did not have opportunity to call on that creature of Horus.

iON 47:04
Right.

Leon 47:06
And, yeah, okay. So, that was – is there something that Horus was able to gain in that process to have the access?

iON 47:14
He did. He did.

Leon 47:15
Oh, okay.

iON 47:17
The dropping that – you dropped, you drop the boundary. Otherwise, you used to, you were stuck. You’re stuck like Chuck. And once that bound became open, if you had that knowing then you could navigate between the two. That’s why they’d give up, they’d give their left nut if they’re dead to get back to the live. Or, if they’re live and can get them back from the dead: "Such a good living a poor man could make if he were willing to die for the rich."

Leon 47:50
Very true. Yeah. Okay, um. All right. Then there was a creature. I’m not too sure if it was just an add-on just to kind of give it a more of a some kind of play to it, but there was a creature which the eldest god it seemed combat it. Is that the nothing or, ah –

iON 48:22
You’re saying nothing as there’s not a thing, but the nothing is a thing.

Leon 48:26
Okay, so nothing is a thing.

iON 48:29
Yeah.

Leon 48:30
And it {Note: this word unclear} assume. Is that all of it’s purpose is assume, (indistinct) assume?

iON 48:38
As in like a rifle?

Leon 48:43
Yeah, to, I guess, to implode and to explode.

iON 48:50
Ah, okay. We don’t care.

Leon 48:56
But it is a creature that, I would say, an environment that exists.

iON 49:08
Yes.

Leon 49:10
Is it almost like the smoke monster from "Lost"?

iON 49:13
It would be. Yeah.

Leon 49:15
Okay.

iON 49:16
Bob likes that. Don Locke.

Leon 49:18
John Locke, yes. He was awesome.

iON 49:24
Yeah, he liked that. He wouldn’t watch if (overtalk).

Bob 49:27
John Locke was a British philosopher.

Leon 49:31
Oh. Okay, so he’s –

Bob 49:34
Not the British philosopher, the guy on "Fringe"?

Leon 49:36
On "Lost."

Bob 49:37
On "Lost." He was on "Lost."

Leon 49:41
"Lost."

Bob 49:42
Yeah. Okay. Go ahead, go ahead.

Leon 49:45
Oh, sorry, I go to John Locke. He was able to, like, he seemed to navigate all those environments seamlessly at moments where he was able to –

iON 49:58
He did. So does Bob.

Leon 50:00
All right. Is that almost like –

iON 50:04
That’s not really fair ‘cuz he’s a Dark, he’s a Dark Soul. So, you know, it’s not really fair.

Leon 50:10
But, he was disciplined. He had that discipline that he –

iON 50:13
Bob’s not. Well, Bob’s disciplined to nothing. Yeah, so, yeah. He’s the king of nothing, but he rules.

Leon 50:23
Amen. Good job, Bob.

Bob 50:25
Hey, Leon, when you type when you type "Bobby, Bobby" and things like that, are you expressing enthusiasm for the Dark Soul?

Leon 50:33
Ah, yeah.

iON 50:35
Distain. Distain.

Bob 50:36
Okay.

Leon 50:37
I have moments of distain, too.

iON 50:38
Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby.

Bob 50:42
Distain? I’ll have to note that.

iON 50:44
You note that. Ha ha ha ha. Distain?

Bob 50:51
What’s your name again? L-e-o-n –

iON 50:59
Bobby, Bobby, you know us. Bobby, Bobby, Bobby.

Bob 51:06
Hey, people, know what Leon says on the chat line as he’s talking. It’s interesting how he responds to the Saturday night party. Every week watch what Leon says. So, are you finished, Leon? You did it?

Leon 51:21
Ah, let’s see. What about Claire for a conclusion from the television show "Lost"?

iON 51:30
What about it?

Bob 51:32
Oh, yeah. Who was Claire? That was the girl? That was a little girl or something?

iON 51:38
Ha ha ha ha.

Leon 51:38
Claire was the baby. Yeah And her (indistinct). It seemed like she was like –

iON 51:44
The one that last one off the airplane.

Leon 51:50
Okay.

Bob 51:51
Yeah, she went off the airplane. I think she left it. Right? Sounds familiar.

iON 51:57
Do.

Bob 51:58
But, so, she’s not in the ending. Is that correct, iON?

iON 52:02
She’s at the church.

Bob 52:07
She’s at the church. Well, you figure that out, Leon. I guess you’re watching it.

iON 52:11
(Overtalk) she was gone forever. And she was gone and then they couldn’t find her and it never worked out. And so then she showed up at the church at the end. They all were waiting on them to get there.

Bob 52:22
Oh, everybody shows up at the church. Yeah. Hey, is that church – everybody showed up at the church. That’s sort of like The Book of the Dead? Those are dead people showing up?

iON 52:33
Yeah. Yeah. It’s an example of the smoke.

Bob 52:35
That’s interesting.

iON 52:37
The smoke, smoke, the smoke monster.

Bob 52:40
Nobody liked the ending because it wasn’t lively enough. But, if you understand that it was about the dead returning, well, that’s pretty, pretty good on JJ Abrams’ part.

Michael 52:51
Yeah.

Bob 52:52
Thank you, Leon. You evoked a new (overtalk)

Leon 52:54
(overtalk) Is there a (indistinct) persective on it?

iON 52:54
(overtalk) Shit. Shit. You told him everything he knows.

Bob 52:58
What?

iON 52:59
You told him everything you know.

Bob 53:00
Wait a minute, Leon. iON’s putting down JJ Abrams. Who’s it good on then? Who made that ending? We did? Did you do that, iON?

iON 53:09
You did. You did that. You did that.

Bob 53:12
Oh yeah, he just – it’s amazing (overtalk with Leon on iON) how much –

iON 53:19
We discussed that. We discussed that back in the day when it was happening and you were talkin’ about it. We talked about six different endings that it could be. You went through them all. And when you went down to the hole, to that well and pulled the damn cork out to let all the air out of Maui, that’s when you decided –

Bob 53:35
Yeah.

iON 53:35
– just let nobody in there but the little – that the church on the Little House on the Prairie, and then come stand there now (overtalk) it wouldn’t stop otherwise. Otherwise, they’re gonna go back through the loop and back on the airplane and land in some fucking Sacramento bullshit somewhere. That’s exactly what you said and then you said: "Oh, JJ Abrams was really insightful. JJ Abrams was really insightful. The Bad Robot, yeah, he got it right on the head. How smart he must be to listen to me. How smart he must be to listen to me, yes." That’s what happened.

Bob 53:35
Very good end, Leon.

Leon 54:15
So, one question. Wait, hold on, may I add one more punch? I’m sorry, but I noticed on Westworld that JJ Abrams kind of gave a glimpse of, like, how the Native Americans are – that concept of it. Those, that nation, they went through, I think, a mirror to another land.

iON 54:38
Yeah. Yeah.

Leon 54:39
But their bodies fell to the ground, or fell. But they were still –

iON 54:43
Okay.

Leon 54:43
– Yeah, but in the mirror there was – they were – existed in the mirror; but, I guess, in that realm the bodies swapped.

iON 54:51
That’s the juxta – rememeber we talked about the cross angle, the juxtaposed position in a mirror? The right angle in the mirror? We talked about this. The 45 degree angle. Cross-section, the in and out.

Bob 55:07
Yeah. That’s what that’s expressing?

iON 55:13
Yeah.

Bob 55:15
And it’s nothing to do with the Book of the Dead or, or the creation of the Tech Body. Is that someone – are the Indians absorbed into the Tech Body?

iON 55:25
You’re not, you’re not gonna go back anymore. So, no. You don’t even have (overtalk)

Bob 55:31
No, the Indians, the native groups. The natives, they went through the mirror, right?Leon?

Leon 55:39
Yes. They went through like a mirror.

Bob 55:42
Was that anything about us today? Anything about us today, iON?

iON 55:53
Ah, no.

Bob 55:56
Okay. All right. Thank you very much, Leon.

Leon 56:00
Elmo.

Bob 56:04
What? No mo? Hell no. Thank you.

Leon 56:07
Elmo. I said Elmo.

iON 56:11
Tickle me Elmo.

Bob 56:12
What’s that? What’s Elmo?

Leon 56:15
It’s a character from Sesame Street.

Michael 56:18
(in Elmo’s voice) It’s Elmo. It’s Elmo, Bob. Elmo.

Bob 56:24
Who’s saying that? I’m getting – my charges interrupted me, but who went, who’s saying that? Is that a friend of Leon’s?

Michael 56:33
(in Elmo’s voice) Elmo, Bob, Elmo.

Bob 56:35
Was that Nik?

Michael 56:36
It’s Michael. Ha ha.

Leon 56:40
Wonderful massage.

Bob 56:41
Michael. Okay. All right. Elmo. What’s your, what’s your problem about Elmo, Leon?

Leon 56:48
No, I said or ditto, but (overtalk with unknown)

Unknown 56:54
(indistinct)

Bob 56:54
Is that, is that Alissa? Did you guys hear Alissa’s voice?

Michael 57:03
Alissa. Yes.

Bob 57:05
Where is she comes through? Okay. Okay, Leon, I gotta clean up the mess here. Okay? You’re not included. You get the day off. Get off early. Thank you very much. Okay, we’re gonna mute Leon.